Re: quote should be removed from test in H49, semantics of elements depending on doctype

On Thu, May 24, 2012 at 12:59 AM, <noreply@w3.org> wrote:

> Name: Detlev Fischer
> Email: detlev.fischer@testkreis.de
> Affiliation: 3needs
> Document: TD
> Item Number: H49
> Part of Item: Tests
> Comment Type: technical
> Summary of Issue: quote should be removed from test in H49, semantics of
> elements depending on doctype
> Comment (Including rationale for any proposed change):
> The test includes this check:
>
> 2.Check that appropriate semantic markup (such as em, strong, cite,
> blockquote, quote, sub, and sup) have been used to mark the text that
> conveys information through variations in text.
>
>
> Proposed Change:
> quote should be removed since it is not an element. Since screen reader
> support is poor and IE6 and 7 require CSS hacks to add quotes to q it may
> be better not to refer to q at all at the time being. After all, there
> seems to be consensus that inline quotes may also be indicated by using
> "..." so failing to use the q element should not fail the test.
>
> Another question is whether there is a solid base right now to distinguish
> between proper and improper uses of the elements <i> and <b> which used to
> me presentational but are being given new  semantics in HTML 5. The same
> ios true for <cite> which is now likely to be restricted to titles in
> HTML5. The test of those elements would either require a check of doctype
> to differentiate between, and describe, legitimate usages, or not
> explicitly mention these elements so it is down to the evaluator to work
> out whether usage conforms to the chosen doctype.
>
> ================================
Response from the Working Group
================================
We agree that quote should be removed from the test procedure.  The new
test procedure will read:

2.Check that appropriate semantic markup (such as em, strong, cite,
blockquote, sub, and sup) have been used to mark the text that conveys
information through variations in text.

Loretta Guarino Reid, WCAG WG Co-Chair
Gregg Vanderheiden, WCAG WG Co-Chair
Michael Cooper, WCAG WG Staff Contact


On behalf of the WCAG Working Group