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Eric Hansen reaction to WCAG 2.0 WG responses to Eric's comments on the 2006 working draft

From: Hansen, Eric <ehansen@ETS.ORG>
Date: Wed, 6 Jun 2007 13:04:42 -0400
Message-ID: <404EE2EE73FEE7489A101E7256B5CD9F04E443E3@rosnt108.etslan.org>
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It appears that the responses from the WCAG 2.0 working group adequately
address the concerns I raised, except for an issue for which I consulted
Ruth Loew, who has extensive background in linguistics and sign
language. I should note that I have have reviewed each issue largely in
isolation from other issues, so  evaluation of each issue was not
informed by an understanding of the full document. The doucment appears
to constitute a significant revision.

Ruth feels that definition of the term "human language" (email 1 comment
13) is circular. She writes:

"WCAG 2.0 currently defines 'human language' as 'language that is
spoken, written or signed (visually or tactilely) by humans to
communicate with one another.'   
"This begs the definition of 'language.'  A human language is a language
that is used by humans for communication.  (Are there other uses?)  So a
human language is a language used by humans.

"I don't know what the WCAG wants to rule in/out with this definition.
Without knowing that, I can't make other recommendations.  So I'd like
to go on record as NOT accepting this definition and wanting to know the
intent behind it.  With that information, I can probably propose

"(By the way, no linguist would call an invented sign system, as opposed
to a natural sign language, a language.  They're codes for English or
for other spoken/written languages.  So if the idea was to rule these
in, this definition doesn't do it.)"  

I (Eric) intend to review the entire document and, if I find issues, to
inform you by 29 June. Thanks!

- Eric

Eric Hansen

-----Original Message-----
From: Loretta Guarino Reid [mailto:lorettaguarino@google.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, June 05, 2007 6:40 PM
To: Hansen, Eric
Subject: Reminder - request for response on WCAG 2.0 comments

Dear  Eric Hansen ,

On May 17, the WCAG Working Group responded to your comments on the
2006 Last Call Working Draft of the Web Content Accessibility Guidelines
2.0. [1] [2]

This is a reminder that we would like to hear back from you on our
response to your comments.  We had asked if you could review the
decisions and reply to us by this Thursday, 7 June, to say whether you
are satisfied with the decision taken. Please send your response to
public-comments-WCAG20@w3.org. If that date is not possible, please
reply to this message indicating when you will be able to respond.
Early responses help us to address more effectively any concerns raised.

Thanks again for the interest that you have taken in these guidelines.

Loretta Guarino Reid, WCAG WG Co-Chair
Gregg Vanderheiden, WCAG WG Co-Chair
Michael Cooper, WCAG WG Staff Contact

On behalf of the WCAG Working Group


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