- From: Rain Michaels <rainb@google.com>
- Date: Sat, 13 Mar 2021 09:59:54 -0800
- To: Lisa Seeman <lisa1seeman@gmail.com>
- Cc: Rachael <rachaellbradley@gmail.com>, public-cognitive-a11y-tf <public-cognitive-a11y-tf@w3.org>
- Message-ID: <CAJO5HuvZ2nrcLwRhHzoMvNujovUE-G-85CqWToiZmZubO6+mYw@mail.gmail.com>
Hi Lisa et. al., I've added several more editing pull requests to the consistency_checks branch. Additionally, here are a couple of additional things that I found: *Under 6.6.4 Kwame Scenario 4 <https://raw.githack.com/w3c/coga/consistency_checks/content-usable/index.html#kwame-scenario-4-understanding-where-information-is-in-a-hierarchical-structure>, I was unclear what "cons" is in this sentence: * "He needs *cons* that emphasize the structure and role of the content. Images that accompany the main text and make it memorable also help." *Under 6.8.3 Sam Scenario 6 <https://raw.githack.com/w3c/coga/consistency_checks/content-usable/index.html#sam-scenario-3-trying-to-activate-elements-that-are-mis-recognized>, I was unclear what "crosses" is in this sentence:* "Small *crosses* become a nightmare." Thank you, Rain On Thu, Mar 11, 2021 at 11:10 AM Rain Michaels <rainb@google.com> wrote: > Hi Lisa, > > Adding a link to developer resources and then enabling the inclusion of > resources in more than one language sounds like the perfect plan. > > Thank you for your response! > > Rain > > On Thu, Mar 11, 2021 at 10:41 AM Lisa Seeman <lisa1seeman@gmail.com> > wrote: > >> Hi Rain >> I can put in the changes on sunday. >> >> We tried to make the bullet points consistent, but we can do a final >> check. >> >> we had a few links to the 1500 most common words for different contexts. >> , however I would rather add a link to our developer resource page, and add >> it there. Is that ok? Then we can add for different languages as we find >> them. >> >> All the best >> Lisa >> >> >> >> On Wed, 10 Mar 2021, 19:33 Rain Michaels, <rainb@google.com> wrote: >> >>> Hello, I'm adding a few more corrections in pull requests. Meanwhile, >>> here are a couple more overall comments that stand out for us to >>> potentially address in the future: >>> >>> User Story: Adapt is not the only place where both "easy to understand >>> language" (without hyphens) and "easy-to-understand language" (with >>> hyphens) are used. These two ways of writing this appear to be used >>> interchangeably throughout the document. Is this intentional? >>> >>> Design Guide is not the only section where both terms, "cognitive and >>> learning disabilities" and "cognitive and learning impairments" are used. >>> These two terms appear to be used interchangeably throughout the document. >>> Is this intentional? >>> >>> I've seen this comment before in a thread, but wanted to note that it >>> stood out in the document: list item punctuation is inconsistent >>> throughout. In some places, each list item ends with a period even if it is >>> not a complete sentence. Some areas end each item with a common, until the >>> second to last one which ends with "and". Other places have no punctuation >>> even if each list item contains a full or nearly full sentence. >>> >>> Under 4.4.1.2 What To Do: >>> There is a recommendation to "look at the 1500 most common words," but >>> this feels unhelpful without a link or resource included (I found this, but >>> it is English-specific: https://www.englishspeak.com/en/english-words) >>> >>> I'm more than happy to do the work of finding and correcting these items >>> in the code, but would need to know from the group if (1) these are >>> intentional, and (2) which style we would like to use. >>> >>> Thank you, >>> >>> Rain >>> >>> On Mon, Mar 8, 2021 at 5:43 PM Rain Michaels <rainb@google.com> wrote: >>> >>>> I am so impressed with all of the work that has been done. >>>> >>>> In the spirit of editing: >>>> >>>> I've created several pull requests on the consistency_checks branch >>>> with minor corrections that seemed obvious and objective. >>>> >>>> I'm not done going through, but wanted to make sure to send what I have >>>> as soon as possible. I'll try to get through the rest of the >>>> document tomorrow. >>>> >>>> Here are a couple of comments for items that are more subjective: >>>> >>>> *3.1.2 User Story: Clear Operation* >>>> >>>> As an individual with dyslexia, the opening paragraph confused me: *"As >>>> a user with a memory impairment, a learning disability, or a communication >>>> disability who uses symbols, or executive function impairment, I find it >>>> hard to learn new interface design patterns. I need to know which controls >>>> are available and how to use them so that the site is usable for me."* >>>> >>>> I was able to follow the first three user examples, but the forth one >>>> ("or executive function impairment") felt like it was tacked on and didn't >>>> fit into the list. I spent more time than I should have re-thinking the >>>> sentence. >>>> >>>> Suggestions to fix: >>>> >>>> Suggestion 1: put them in a list >>>> >>>> *As a user with* >>>> >>>> - *a memory impairment* >>>> - *a learning disability* >>>> - *a communication disability who uses symbols* >>>> - *an executive function impairment* >>>> >>>> Suggestion 2: tweak the "or" and "a" usage in the sentence >>>> >>>> *As a user with a memory impairment, a learning disability, a >>>> communication disability who uses symbols, or an executive function >>>> impairment,...* >>>> >>>> *3.8.1 User Story: Adapt* >>>> >>>> I noticed that sometimes the document uses "easy to understand" as >>>> three separate words, and sometimes we use "easy-to-understand" with >>>> hyphens. >>>> >>>> Is there a reason for the two styles? >>>> >>>> The third bullet in this section uses both: >>>> >>>> *"I need content delivered in an easy to understand language or an >>>> easy-to-understand mode (like short, understandable, video clips)."* >>>> >>>> *4. Design Guide* >>>> >>>> In the intro paragraph, I noticed that we used the word "cognitive and >>>> learning impairments" instead of "cognitive and learning disabilities," >>>> which is different from the language elsewhere. Not sure if there is a >>>> specific reason for this, but it stands out. >>>> >>>> >>>> On Thu, Mar 4, 2021 at 8:19 AM Lisa Seeman <lisa1seeman@gmail.com> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Hi Folks >>>>> >>>>> We (editors) are doing the final changes from the issues to content >>>>> useable 1.0. However, it will still need to be reviewed, as sometimes when >>>>> you fix one thing you brake another (and we have a dyslexic editor...). >>>>> >>>>> We will hopefully get any changes done over the weekend and send you a >>>>> final version to approve then. However if you have time now, and want to >>>>> start, it would make sense as the changes for the editors are only: icons, >>>>> w3c conformance and name consistency (were we changed the pattern name to >>>>> update the tables and user need) >>>>> >>>>> So if you do want to start the review, just ignore these items. >>>>> >>>>> The edited draft is at >>>>> https://raw.githack.com/w3c/coga/consistency_checks/content-usable/index.html >>>>> >>>>> You can send any feedback to the list. Feel free to read it as HTML or >>>>> as a word doc or whatever makes reviewing easier for you. >>>>> >>>>> Thanks so much >>>>> Lisall h >>>>> >>>>
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