- From: Lisa Seeman <lisa1seeman@gmail.com>
- Date: Mon, 15 Mar 2021 15:55:16 +0200
- To: Rain Michaels <rainb@google.com>
- Cc: Rachael <rachaellbradley@gmail.com>, public-cognitive-a11y-tf <public-cognitive-a11y-tf@w3.org>
- Message-ID: <CAKExBM+rWW+4xO6ucxshGwVHZh-DLcDC+Zn+HmdNfeWFLgysvQ@mail.gmail.com>
Hi I have added in clarifications into the document. Thanks Lisa On Sat, Mar 13, 2021 at 8:00 PM Rain Michaels <rainb@google.com> wrote: > Hi Lisa et. al., > > I've added several more editing pull requests to the consistency_checks > branch. > > Additionally, here are a couple of additional things that I found: > > *Under 6.6.4 Kwame Scenario 4 > <https://raw.githack.com/w3c/coga/consistency_checks/content-usable/index.html#kwame-scenario-4-understanding-where-information-is-in-a-hierarchical-structure>, > I was unclear what "cons" is in this sentence: * > "He needs *cons* that emphasize the structure and role of the content. > Images that accompany the main text and make it memorable also help." > > *Under 6.8.3 Sam Scenario 6 > <https://raw.githack.com/w3c/coga/consistency_checks/content-usable/index.html#sam-scenario-3-trying-to-activate-elements-that-are-mis-recognized>, > I was unclear what "crosses" is in this sentence:* > "Small *crosses* become a nightmare." > > Thank you, > > Rain > > On Thu, Mar 11, 2021 at 11:10 AM Rain Michaels <rainb@google.com> wrote: > >> Hi Lisa, >> >> Adding a link to developer resources and then enabling the inclusion of >> resources in more than one language sounds like the perfect plan. >> >> Thank you for your response! >> >> Rain >> >> On Thu, Mar 11, 2021 at 10:41 AM Lisa Seeman <lisa1seeman@gmail.com> >> wrote: >> >>> Hi Rain >>> I can put in the changes on sunday. >>> >>> We tried to make the bullet points consistent, but we can do a final >>> check. >>> >>> we had a few links to the 1500 most common words for >>> different contexts. , however I would rather add a link to our >>> developer resource page, and add it there. Is that ok? Then we can add for >>> different languages as we find them. >>> >>> All the best >>> Lisa >>> >>> >>> >>> On Wed, 10 Mar 2021, 19:33 Rain Michaels, <rainb@google.com> wrote: >>> >>>> Hello, I'm adding a few more corrections in pull requests. Meanwhile, >>>> here are a couple more overall comments that stand out for us to >>>> potentially address in the future: >>>> >>>> User Story: Adapt is not the only place where both "easy to understand >>>> language" (without hyphens) and "easy-to-understand language" (with >>>> hyphens) are used. These two ways of writing this appear to be used >>>> interchangeably throughout the document. Is this intentional? >>>> >>>> Design Guide is not the only section where both terms, "cognitive and >>>> learning disabilities" and "cognitive and learning impairments" are used. >>>> These two terms appear to be used interchangeably throughout the document. >>>> Is this intentional? >>>> >>>> I've seen this comment before in a thread, but wanted to note that it >>>> stood out in the document: list item punctuation is inconsistent >>>> throughout. In some places, each list item ends with a period even if it is >>>> not a complete sentence. Some areas end each item with a common, until the >>>> second to last one which ends with "and". Other places have no punctuation >>>> even if each list item contains a full or nearly full sentence. >>>> >>>> Under 4.4.1.2 What To Do: >>>> There is a recommendation to "look at the 1500 most common words," but >>>> this feels unhelpful without a link or resource included (I found this, but >>>> it is English-specific: https://www.englishspeak.com/en/english-words) >>>> >>>> I'm more than happy to do the work of finding and correcting these >>>> items in the code, but would need to know from the group if (1) these are >>>> intentional, and (2) which style we would like to use. >>>> >>>> Thank you, >>>> >>>> Rain >>>> >>>> On Mon, Mar 8, 2021 at 5:43 PM Rain Michaels <rainb@google.com> wrote: >>>> >>>>> I am so impressed with all of the work that has been done. >>>>> >>>>> In the spirit of editing: >>>>> >>>>> I've created several pull requests on the consistency_checks branch >>>>> with minor corrections that seemed obvious and objective. >>>>> >>>>> I'm not done going through, but wanted to make sure to send what I >>>>> have as soon as possible. I'll try to get through the rest of the >>>>> document tomorrow. >>>>> >>>>> Here are a couple of comments for items that are more subjective: >>>>> >>>>> *3.1.2 User Story: Clear Operation* >>>>> >>>>> As an individual with dyslexia, the opening paragraph confused me: *"As >>>>> a user with a memory impairment, a learning disability, or a communication >>>>> disability who uses symbols, or executive function impairment, I find it >>>>> hard to learn new interface design patterns. I need to know which controls >>>>> are available and how to use them so that the site is usable for me."* >>>>> >>>>> I was able to follow the first three user examples, but the forth one >>>>> ("or executive function impairment") felt like it was tacked on and didn't >>>>> fit into the list. I spent more time than I should have re-thinking the >>>>> sentence. >>>>> >>>>> Suggestions to fix: >>>>> >>>>> Suggestion 1: put them in a list >>>>> >>>>> *As a user with* >>>>> >>>>> - *a memory impairment* >>>>> - *a learning disability* >>>>> - *a communication disability who uses symbols* >>>>> - *an executive function impairment* >>>>> >>>>> Suggestion 2: tweak the "or" and "a" usage in the sentence >>>>> >>>>> *As a user with a memory impairment, a learning disability, a >>>>> communication disability who uses symbols, or an executive function >>>>> impairment,...* >>>>> >>>>> *3.8.1 User Story: Adapt* >>>>> >>>>> I noticed that sometimes the document uses "easy to understand" as >>>>> three separate words, and sometimes we use "easy-to-understand" with >>>>> hyphens. >>>>> >>>>> Is there a reason for the two styles? >>>>> >>>>> The third bullet in this section uses both: >>>>> >>>>> *"I need content delivered in an easy to understand language or an >>>>> easy-to-understand mode (like short, understandable, video clips)."* >>>>> >>>>> *4. Design Guide* >>>>> >>>>> In the intro paragraph, I noticed that we used the word "cognitive and >>>>> learning impairments" instead of "cognitive and learning disabilities," >>>>> which is different from the language elsewhere. Not sure if there is a >>>>> specific reason for this, but it stands out. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Thu, Mar 4, 2021 at 8:19 AM Lisa Seeman <lisa1seeman@gmail.com> >>>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Hi Folks >>>>>> >>>>>> We (editors) are doing the final changes from the issues to content >>>>>> useable 1.0. However, it will still need to be reviewed, as sometimes when >>>>>> you fix one thing you brake another (and we have a dyslexic editor...). >>>>>> >>>>>> We will hopefully get any changes done over the weekend and send you >>>>>> a final version to approve then. However if you have time now, and want to >>>>>> start, it would make sense as the changes for the editors are only: icons, >>>>>> w3c conformance and name consistency (were we changed the pattern name to >>>>>> update the tables and user need) >>>>>> >>>>>> So if you do want to start the review, just ignore these items. >>>>>> >>>>>> The edited draft is at >>>>>> https://raw.githack.com/w3c/coga/consistency_checks/content-usable/index.html >>>>>> >>>>>> You can send any feedback to the list. Feel free to read it as HTML >>>>>> or as a word doc or whatever makes reviewing easier for you. >>>>>> >>>>>> Thanks so much >>>>>> Lisall h >>>>>> >>>>>
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