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RE: Accessible Authentication SC Questions

From: Rochford, John <john.rochford@umassmed.edu>
Date: Fri, 6 Nov 2020 04:33:19 +0000
To: Alastair Campbell <acampbell@nomensa.com>
CC: Rachael Montgomery <rachael@accessiblecommunity.org>, "lisa.seeman@zoho.com" <lisa.seeman@zoho.com>, "public-cognitive-a11y-tf@w3.org" <public-cognitive-a11y-tf@w3.org>
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Hi Alastair,

See WebAuthN plugins for:

  *   WordPress<https://wordpress.org/plugins/wp-webauthn/#:~:text=WP%2DWebAuthn%20is%20a%20plug,register%20form%20to%20frontend%20pages.>
  *   Drupal<https://www.drupal.org/project/webauthn>
  *   .NET<https://github.com/abergs/fido2-net-lib>

Also: Website<https://webauthn.io/> designed to test the W3C Specification Web Authentication.

John

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From: Alastair Campbell <acampbell@nomensa.com>
Sent: Monday, November 2, 2020 7:57 AM
To: Rochford, John <john.rochford@umassmed.edu>
Cc: Rachael Montgomery <rachael@accessiblecommunity.org>; lisa.seeman@zoho.com; public-cognitive-a11y-tf@w3.org
Subject: RE: Accessible Authentication SC Questions

Hi John,

Sorry for the delay, I was very busy running up to a vacation week.

I'm sorting through the issues at the moment to generate a survey (in progress)<https://nam10.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.w3.org%2F2002%2F09%2Fwbs%2F35422%2Fwcag22-accesssible-auth-updates%2F&data=04%7C01%7Cjohn.rochford%40umassmed.edu%7Cfb9e490632eb45e166ca08d87f373481%7Cee9155fe2da34378a6c44405faf57b2e%7C0%7C1%7C637399222370914704%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C2000&sdata=lVf6y3E1NV7gDH3%2FfKEHbf%2BH5L7APpEpU%2B35bb5R1WA%3D&reserved=0>.


  1.  I'll create a PR for Jon's suggestion, although I don't think adding those style of images as a 'cognitive function test' will help overall. It will make it harder to have a clean definition, which leads to confusion.
  2.  I'm no sure what the technique for reCAPTCHA would be? We don't want to point to a particular product, whether for good or bad reasons.
  3.  The concerns about feasibility for small site owners is something we need to tackle in two ways:

     *   Request specific issues, rather than a general feeling. Without specifics it is impossible to reply.
     *   Find plugins for several comment frameworks. E.g. if we can find WebAuthN plugins for Wordpress/Drupal/.Net, that covers off a lot of the web and demonstrates there are reasonable simple solutions available.
We wouldn't add that to official documentation, but it helps to have for responses.

Kind regards,

-Alastair


From: Rochford, John <john.rochford@umassmed.edu<mailto:john.rochford@umassmed.edu>>
Sent: 22 October 2020 15:00
To: Alastair Campbell <acampbell@nomensa.com<mailto:acampbell@nomensa.com>>
Cc: Rachael Montgomery <rachael@accessiblecommunity.org<mailto:rachael@accessiblecommunity.org>>; lisa.seeman@zoho.com<mailto:lisa.seeman@zoho.com>; public-cognitive-a11y-tf@w3.org<mailto:public-cognitive-a11y-tf@w3.org>
Subject: Accessible Authentication SC Questions

Hi Alistair,

I have been following the GitHub conversation about our Accessible Authentication SC<https://nam10.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fgithub.com%2Fw3c%2Fwcag%2Flabels%2F3.3.7%2520Accessible%2520Authentication&data=04%7C01%7Cjohn.rochford%40umassmed.edu%7Cfb9e490632eb45e166ca08d87f373481%7Cee9155fe2da34378a6c44405faf57b2e%7C0%7C1%7C637399222370924650%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C2000&sdata=33kPAA99qENgpIyt%2Btyxu4crqzyOG5UGRnv9%2Btdk7dM%3D&reserved=0>. My questions for you, so far, are the following.


  1.  Would you like me to add, to the Understanding Doc<https://nam10.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fw3c.github.io%2Fwcag%2Funderstanding%2Faccessible-authentication.html&data=04%7C01%7Cjohn.rochford%40umassmed.edu%7Cfb9e490632eb45e166ca08d87f373481%7Cee9155fe2da34378a6c44405faf57b2e%7C0%7C1%7C637399222370924650%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C2000&sdata=rvvSYnZJOJkZGQ7rruUI7FKHEB%2FUmWIQZbLWd%2FOdsWY%3D&reserved=0>, the proposed text Jonathan Avila provided<https://nam10.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fgithub.com%2Fw3c%2Fwcag%2Fissues%2F1256%23issuecomment-699025167&data=04%7C01%7Cjohn.rochford%40umassmed.edu%7Cfb9e490632eb45e166ca08d87f373481%7Cee9155fe2da34378a6c44405faf57b2e%7C0%7C1%7C637399222370934608%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C2000&sdata=0H80vswBvGpAQB%2BZ2RXc2FT7gDsn0ozL9aQfRMfNJhY%3D&reserved=0> at your request<https://nam10.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fgithub.com%2Fw3c%2Fwcag%2Fissues%2F1256%23issuecomment-698431133&data=04%7C01%7Cjohn.rochford%40umassmed.edu%7Cfb9e490632eb45e166ca08d87f373481%7Cee9155fe2da34378a6c44405faf57b2e%7C0%7C1%7C637399222370934608%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C2000&sdata=z26TXbQirrrnu%2Br%2BXEDgu5%2FelaSO%2BKQdXTM6bzhomfw%3D&reserved=0>?
  2.  What do you think of including, as a technique, Google reCAPTCHA v3<https://nam10.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fdevelopers.google.com%2Frecaptcha%2Fdocs%2Fv3&data=04%7C01%7Cjohn.rochford%40umassmed.edu%7Cfb9e490632eb45e166ca08d87f373481%7Cee9155fe2da34378a6c44405faf57b2e%7C0%7C1%7C637399222370934608%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C2000&sdata=wce2qDrR%2FKK2e4%2BxnU7M%2BTU4zSDvaN2g1MLPJoV96PI%3D&reserved=0>?
  3.  What do you think of the concerns expressed that the SC will be a burden to owners / developers of small websites?

John

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