RE: A few thoughts on language.

+++1 on that one Ayelet and thank YOU as it is really good to debate these things and see them from all perspectives.

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E.A.

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From: Ayelet Seeman [mailto:ayelet.projects1@gmail.com]
Sent: 17 July 2015 13:17
To: Boland Jr., Frederick E. <frederick.boland@nist.gov>
Cc: EA Draffan <ead@ecs.soton.ac.uk>; Rochford, John <john.rochford@umassmed.edu>; lisa.seeman <lisa.seeman@zoho.com>; Jamie Knight <Jamie.Knight@bbc.co.uk>; public-cognitive-a11y-tf@w3.org
Subject: Re: A few thoughts on language.

Thanks E.A. and Neil, and Fred for the definitions. :)

Mike, I understand your point.
But "disability" labels both the person and the environment, and "impairment" labels only the person. So I see why many people would prefer the term "impairment" and find it empowering, but I personally still prefer "disabled".
It may well be preferable to use "impairments", also because we're trying to build support to minimise the disabling of the cognitive impairments in ICT.



On Tue, Jul 14, 2015 at 9:48 PM, Boland Jr., Frederick E. <frederick.boland@nist.gov<mailto:frederick.boland@nist.gov>> wrote:
Mild Cognitive Impairment:
http://www.mayoclinic.org/diseases-conditions/mild-cognitive-impairment/basics/definition/CON-20026392


Definition of Cognitive Impairment:
https://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20070109142843AAirefp


What is Cognitive Impairment?:
http://www.wisegeekhealth.com/what-is-cognitive-impairment.htm


Mild Cognitive Impairment Definition:
http://www.medicinenet.com/script/main/art.asp?articlekey=34277


Thanks Tim


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Subject: RE: A few thoughts on language.

I agree with all Jamie says and have found it hard to fit in with the W3C terminology but with the options available – thank you John  your last one is the shortest and ‘cognitive impairment’ is something we have been using despite its limitations
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Subject: RE: A few thoughts on language.

Hi Lisa and All,

Perhaps this a good opportunity to simplify our task force’s name to the:

•       “Cognitive Impairments Accessibility Task Force”; OR

•       “Cognitive Impairment Accessibility Task Force”; OR

•       “Cognitive Impairments Task Force”; OR

•       “Cognitive Impairment Task Force”

John

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From: lisa.seeman [mailto:lisa.seeman@zoho.com]
Sent: Monday, July 13, 2015 6:52 AM
To: Jamie Knight
Cc: public-cognitive-a11y-tf@w3.org
Subject: Re: A few thoughts on language.

Hi Jamie
This is an important issue, that we have been struggling with. The problem is that so many of the alternative terms are used to mean different things in different locations. For example LD means something else entirely in the US and Europe.

Cognitive impairment is being used in a limiting way in the US - see http://www.cdc.gov/aging/pdf/cognitive_impairment/cogimp_poilicy_final.pdf


I love the term neurodiversity. The problem is a lot of people do not know what it means.
All the best

Lisa Seeman

Athena ICT Accessibility Projects
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---- On Mon, 13 Jul 2015 13:28:01 +0300 Jamie Knight<Jamie.Knight@bbc.co.uk> wrote ----
Hello All,

Hope everyone is well. I was wondering if it would be worth discussing how we use language.

I see lots of references to 'cognitive disability'. I'm not sure that's the term we should be using.

I have several impairments due to my autistic traits. I also have a number of abilities due to the same.

However It's the environment that limits my ability to do things and thus my 'disability' is environmental.

To use a physical metaphor. If someone in unable to walk (an impairment) and uses assistive technology (a wheelchair) and the environment is inclusive (lifts, ramps etc) then they are not disabled. The impairment becomes as relevant as their eye colour.

In most of the issue papers I have seen we break down challenges by impairment. So perhaps we could adopt the term cognitive impairment.

Additionally, for some the term is neurodiversity. ND respects someone for being different but also part of normal variation, it rejects the medicalisation of a set of common traits or reactions.

I think It's a subtle but important change in language.

I have impairments for sure. But that does not mean I should be disabled by the them.

What do you think?

Jamie + Lion


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