- From: Ayelet Seeman <ayelet.projects1@gmail.com>
- Date: Fri, 17 Jul 2015 15:16:34 +0300
- To: "Boland Jr., Frederick E." <frederick.boland@nist.gov>
- Cc: EA Draffan <ead@ecs.soton.ac.uk>, "Rochford, John" <john.rochford@umassmed.edu>, "lisa.seeman" <lisa.seeman@zoho.com>, Jamie Knight <Jamie.Knight@bbc.co.uk>, "public-cognitive-a11y-tf@w3.org" <public-cognitive-a11y-tf@w3.org>
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Thanks E.A. and Neil, and Fred for the definitions. :) Mike, I understand your point. But "disability" labels both the person and the environment, and "impairment" labels only the person. So I see why many people would prefer the term "impairment" and find it empowering, but I personally still prefer "disabled". It may well be preferable to use "impairments", also because we're trying to build support to minimise the disabling of the cognitive impairments in ICT. On Tue, Jul 14, 2015 at 9:48 PM, Boland Jr., Frederick E. < frederick.boland@nist.gov> wrote: > Mild Cognitive Impairment: > > > http://www.mayoclinic.org/diseases-conditions/mild-cognitive-impairment/basics/definition/CON-20026392 > > > > Definition of Cognitive Impairment: > > https://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20070109142843AAirefp > > > > What is Cognitive Impairment?: > > http://www.wisegeekhealth.com/what-is-cognitive-impairment.htm > > > > Mild Cognitive Impairment Definition: > > http://www.medicinenet.com/script/main/art.asp?articlekey=34277 > > > > Thanks Tim > > > > > > *From:* EA Draffan [mailto:ead@ecs.soton.ac.uk] > *Sent:* Monday, July 13, 2015 8:58 AM > *To:* Rochford, John; lisa.seeman; Jamie Knight > *Cc:* public-cognitive-a11y-tf@w3.org > *Subject:* RE: A few thoughts on language. > > > > I agree with all Jamie says and have found it hard to fit in with the W3C > terminology but with the options available – thank you John your last one > is the shortest and ‘cognitive impairment’ is something we have been using > despite its limitations > > Best wishes > > E.A. > > > > Mrs E.A. Draffan > > WAIS, ECS , University of Southampton > > Mobile +44 (0)7976 289103 > > http://access.ecs.soton.ac.uk > > UK AAATE rep http://www.aaate.net/ > > http://www.emptech.info > > > > *From:* Rochford, John [mailto:john.rochford@umassmed.edu > <john.rochford@umassmed.edu>] > *Sent:* 13 July 2015 13:17 > *To:* lisa.seeman; Jamie Knight > *Cc:* public-cognitive-a11y-tf@w3.org > > *Subject:* RE: A few thoughts on language. > > > > Hi Lisa and All, > > > > Perhaps this a good opportunity to simplify our task force’s name to the: > > · “Cognitive Impairments Accessibility Task Force”; OR > > · “Cognitive Impairment Accessibility Task Force”; OR > > · “Cognitive Impairments Task Force”; OR > > · “Cognitive Impairment Task Force” > > > > John > > > > John Rochford <http://profiles.umassmed.edu/profiles/display/132901> > > UMass Medical School/E.K. Shriver Center > > Director, INDEX Program > > Instructor, Family Medicine & Community Health > > www.DisabilityInfo.org <http://www.disabilityinfo.org/> > > Twitter: @ClearHelper <http://twitter.com/ClearHelper> > > [image: Facebook Button] > <http://www.facebook.com/pages/New-England-INDEXShriver-CenterUMass-Medical-School/227064920160>[image: > Twitter Button] <https://twitter.com/NEINDEX> [image: WordPress Logo] > <http://www.disabilityinfo.org/blog/> > > > > *From:* lisa.seeman [mailto:lisa.seeman@zoho.com <lisa.seeman@zoho.com>] > *Sent:* Monday, July 13, 2015 6:52 AM > *To:* Jamie Knight > *Cc:* public-cognitive-a11y-tf@w3.org > *Subject:* Re: A few thoughts on language. > > > > Hi Jamie > > This is an important issue, that we have been struggling with. The problem > is that so many of the alternative terms are used to mean different things > in different locations. For example LD means something else entirely in the > US and Europe. > > > > Cognitive impairment is being used in a limiting way in the US - see > http://www.cdc.gov/aging/pdf/cognitive_impairment/cogimp_poilicy_final.pdf > > > > I love the term neurodiversity. The problem is a lot of people do not know > what it means. > > All the best > > Lisa Seeman > > Athena ICT Accessibility Projects <http://accessibility.athena-ict.com> > LinkedIn <http://il.linkedin.com/in/lisaseeman/>, Twitter > <https://twitter.com/SeemanLisa> > > > > > ---- On Mon, 13 Jul 2015 13:28:01 +0300 *Jamie > Knight<Jamie.Knight@bbc.co.uk <Jamie.Knight@bbc.co.uk>>* wrote ---- > > Hello All, > > Hope everyone is well. I was wondering if it would be worth discussing how > we use language. > > I see lots of references to 'cognitive disability'. I'm not sure that's > the term we should be using. > > I have several impairments due to my autistic traits. I also have a number > of abilities due to the same. > > However It's the environment that limits my ability to do things and thus > my 'disability' is environmental. > > To use a physical metaphor. If someone in unable to walk (an impairment) > and uses assistive technology (a wheelchair) and the environment is > inclusive (lifts, ramps etc) then they are not disabled. The impairment > becomes as relevant as their eye colour. > > In most of the issue papers I have seen we break down challenges by > impairment. So perhaps we could adopt the term cognitive impairment. > > Additionally, for some the term is neurodiversity. ND respects someone for > being different but also part of normal variation, it rejects the > medicalisation of a set of common traits or reactions. > > I think It's a subtle but important change in language. > > I have impairments for sure. But that does not mean I should be disabled > by the them. > > What do you think? > > Jamie + Lion > > > ----------------------------- > http://www.bbc.co.uk > This e-mail (and any attachments) is confidential and > may contain personal views which are not the views of the BBC unless > specifically stated. > If you have received it in > error, please delete it from your system. > Do not use, copy or disclose the > information in any way nor act in reliance on it and notify the sender > immediately. > Please note that the BBC monitors e-mails > sent or received. > Further communication will signify your consent to > this. > ----------------------------- > > > > >
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