Minutes from 2014/09/29

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29 Sep 2014
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Attendees
Present
Regrets
Kinshuk
Chair
Lisa_Seeman
Scribe
Susann_Keohane
Contents
Topics 
1.      review of agenda, new items
2.      review of actions - including identifying user strategies and 
cognitive function table
3.      user groups update (ADHD, other)
4.      cog function table thread
Summary of Action Items

<Lisa_Seeman> agenda: this
<Tony_Doran> Zakim aabb is Tony_Doran
<slee> trying to dial in
<slee> slee wants to be there :(
<Tony_Doran> Zakim aabb is Tony_Doran
<Lisa_Seeman> scribe: Susann_Keohane
LS: review of agenda
<Lisa_Seeman> review of agenda, new items
<Lisa_Seeman> review of actions - including identifying user strategies 
and cognitive function table
<Lisa_Seeman> user groups update (ADHD, other)
<Lisa_Seeman> cog function table thread
<Lisa_Seeman> WHat should help text look like. layered help or role based 
help
<Lisa_Seeman> review of User Agent Accessibility Guidelines (UAAG) 2.0 
Last Call Working Draft. The working group (UAWG)
<Lisa_Seeman> approval of other new content, 
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-cognitive-a11y-tf/2014Aug/0045.html
, 
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-cognitive-a11y-tf/2014Aug/0044.html
<Lisa_Seeman> editing github
<Lisa_Seeman> Next FTF
<Lisa_Seeman> How will we receive comments?
review of agenda, new items
review of actions - including identifying user strategies and cognitive 
function table
<Lisa_Seeman> 
https://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/cognitive-a11y-tf/track/actions/open
LS: reminding folks to take action on agenda item 2
.... ADD research that has not yet been captured in the wiki should be 
identified
<slee> I'm getting no audio at all for Zakim - not even the welcome prompt
<Lisa_Seeman> 
https://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/cognitive-a11y-tf/wiki/Gap_Analysis/ADHD
<Lisa_Seeman> steve - sip audio dd not work for me iether - i used skype
<Tony_Doran> Audio is awful today - I thought it was just my terrible wifi
<slee> Lisa_Seeman: phone number?
LS: request for team to review the ADD wiki and provide feedback
<Lisa_Seeman> +1.617.761.6200
<Lisa_Seeman> pascode coga#
LS: discussed cognitive function section referencing comorbidity
.... challenges section should reference ICT
<slee> Lisa_Seeman: Skye deactivated my credit and can take 15 min to 
reactivate - Why, why why?
<ea> Diagnosis of ADHA naybe should be Diagnosis of ADHD
<Tony_Doran> slee - it is Monday ;)
<slee> Tony_Doran: oh, tell me about it ! :)
<slee> is't that a US number?
<Lisa_Seeman> \yes
NM: ADHD research has lots of contradictions
<ea> "To be diagnosed with ADHD, your child must have six or more symptoms 
of inattentiveness, or six or more symptoms of hyperactivity and 
impulsiveness." an illustration of the problem 
http://www.nhs.uk/Conditions/Attention-deficit-hyperactivity-disorder/Pages/Diagnosis.aspx
LS: Group should review and send comments on ADHD this week
<slee> IPcaller.a = slee (I think)
<neilmilliken> EA thanks for the linkif you look down the comments list 
you will see lots on co morbidity
LS: Options of what to do with the ADHD section: (1) collect comments and 
mark as known issues (2) get more sophisticated version (3) not include it
<neilmilliken> IQ+
<slee> Thanks
<ea> Yes and I think it should go as I am concerned that it will lose a 
lot if it becomes too narrow
LS: add to-do to have discussions to collect additional feedback
<neilmilliken> I am pro submission in the knowledge that it is far from 
perfect
was that EA speaking?
<ea> yes sorry
<neilmilliken> yes it was ea
<Lisa_Seeman> \yes
EA: recommend option 1 to allow the broader audience offer feedback which 
we could use to direct our efforts
<JF_> I will +1 as well :)
<Tony_Doran> EA - Agree.
<slee> +0 :)
LS: Move forward with option 1
user groups update (ADHD, other)
<slee> +0: 'I don't feel strongly about it, but I'm okay with this.'
cog function table thread
jf - you're cheat sheet is very helpful!
<slee> Lisa_Seeman: URL please?
<Lisa_Seeman> http://accessibility.athena-ict.com/cognativefunction.shtml
<Lisa_Seeman> 
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-cognitive-a11y-tf/2014Sep/0086.html
<Lisa_Seeman> 
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-cognitive-a11y-tf/2014Aug/att-0029/cognativefunctiontable.html
<neilmilliken> What is the timescale for completion of the action item as 
I am pretty much on leave as of today until end of october
<Tony_Doran> I am goign to redial in audio is awful
LS: move away from diagnosis towards symptoms like problems with executive 
function
<ea> I agree developers will not understand some of the descriptions 
around memory
JR: questions around the specificity requested for the table
LS: the techniques may be different technique on the specificity (such as 
a memory problem)
EA: concerned we are overloading specificity to the point where the 
developer may not be able to understand
RS: we don't want to convey the medical model to a site for 
personalization
.... we do have an overlap of symptoms
<ea> +1
RS: developers wants to know what they need to do and for each individual 
may be a collection of solutions
<Lisa_Seeman> 
http://accessibility.athena-ict.com/cognitive/VisionCoga1.html
LS: labeling cognitive functions and mapping to techniques
.... this table is for our knowledge
<Tony_Doran> You have just answered my question :)
<ddahl> bye!
LS: asking for folks to join her in building the table
<Tony_Doran> Sorry line is awful
<Tony_Doran> Great news EA!!
<Tony_Doran> Agree - an indication of direction would be good.
<Tony_Doran> Apologies - need to drop off
<Lisa_Seeman> ACTION: lisa ask kate and neil to work on tabel [recorded in 
http://www.w3.org/2014/09/29-coga-minutes.html#action01]
<trackbot> Created ACTION-51 - Ask kate and neil to work on tabel [on Lisa 
Seeman - due 2014-10-06].
Summary of Action Items
[NEW] ACTION: lisa ask kate and neil to work on tabel [recorded in 
http://www.w3.org/2014/09/29-coga-minutes.html#action01]
 
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Susann Keohane
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IBM Research Master Inventor | Member of IAAP 

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