Re: All-day WG meeting in May

Based on the responses here I think a face-to-face meeting is unlikely to
happen. Still, I think it would be useful to have a dedicated remote
meeting to specifically discuss the roadmap
<https://github.com/w3c/webdriver-bidi/issues/403> for longer than fits our
regular meetings. Perhaps 3 hours is sufficient.

Riffing on Maksim’s proposed time slot, who would be interested in a remote
meeting @ *Wednesday 2023-06-14 12:00–15:00 UTC (14:00–17:00 CET,
05:00–08:00 AM PDT)* with the specific goal to nail down next steps w.r.t.
the roadmap?

On Thu, May 25, 2023 at 11:56 AM Philip Jägenstedt <foolip@google.com>
wrote:

> I also think it would be valuable to meet for a longer discussion than we
> can fit in the regular WG meetings. Like Maksim, I think the roadmap is the
> most important thing, and it was very productive when we worked on that in
> Berlin last time.,
>
> On Mon, May 15, 2023 at 10:53 AM Maksim Sadym <sadym@google.com> wrote:
>
>> The primary purpose of the meeting is to allocate a specific time and
>> venue for focused discussions, making tangible progress, and ideally
>> reaching a consensus on extending our shared roadmap
>> <https://github.com/w3c/webdriver-bidi/issues/403>. If there are
>> concerns about the logistics of physical hubs, we can opt for a
>> fully-remote meeting format.
>>
>> Alternatively, we can continue with the iterative approach using GitHub
>> issues and regular working group meetings, which would be more
>> accommodating to participants across different time zones. However, it's
>> important to note that this alternative approach may potentially extend the
>> overall timeline of the process.
>>
>> Looking forward to inputs from other participants about their preferences.
>>
>> On Thu, May 11, 2023 at 12:41 PM David Burns <david.b@browserstack.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> I didn't see this in the agenda otherwise would have sorted it first so
>>> me not being there for part of the meeting seems unrelated.
>>>
>>> We haven't come to a conclusion. I know a lot of people can't travel for
>>> just one day so do we see value in a 1 day meeting still or continuing with
>>> our monthly meetings? Would there be value in increasing the cadence of
>>> these meetings to be fortnightly?
>>>
>>> David
>>>
>>> On Thu, May 11, 2023 at 10:53 AM Sam Sneddon <gsnedders@apple.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Did we ever come to a conclusion here? This appears to be the latest
>>>> suggestion, but we never decided whether or not we’re actually doing this,
>>>> and David skipping much of the meeting yesterday probably didn’t help.
>>>>
>>>> /Sam
>>>>
>>>> On 13 Apr 2023, at 10:25, Maksim Sadym <sadym@google.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> As discussed yesterday during our monthly WG meeting, we have an
>>>> updated suggestion for the all-day WG meeting 2023Q2:
>>>>
>>>> 1. Date and time: 2023-06-14 12:00 UTC (14:00 CET, 5 am PDT). We are
>>>> open for other dates and times.
>>>> 2. As usual, remote-friendly.
>>>> 3. We would gladly host a hub in Berlin or Munich.
>>>> 4. Hubs in other locations are very welcome (London?, SF?).
>>>> 5. Agenda to be discussed.
>>>>
>>>> On Mon, Mar 27, 2023 at 6:19 PM Patrick Angle <pangle@apple.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> The spring has in past years been an incredibly busy time for me and
>>>>> my coworker as historically we have held our developer’s conference in
>>>>> early June (although I do not know when it will be this year, I await the
>>>>> public announcement like anyone else). So dedicating a full day to anything
>>>>> is very difficult until the second half of June most years.
>>>>>
>>>>> Keen on the idea of another virtual F2F though, and scheduling
>>>>> difficulties aside I'd also be happy to participate!
>>>>>
>>>>> – Patrick
>>>>>
>>>>> > On Mar 27, 2023, at 7:13 AM, James Graham <james@hoppipolla.co.uk>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>> >
>>>>> > On 21/03/2023 10:58, Maksim Sadym wrote:
>>>>> >> Good morning dear colleagues!
>>>>> >> Last all-day WG meetings were super productive, both in Berlin and
>>>>> in Vancouver. And as such, we suggest planning another in May or June. We
>>>>> are happy to host those who want to attend in-person in our offices in
>>>>> Munich or Berlin. Of course it will be online-friendly.
>>>>> >> We suggest the *4th of May* (/may the force.../).
>>>>> >> Please let us know if you would like to join virtually or
>>>>> in-person, and in which location if in-person.
>>>>> >
>>>>> > We're excited about keeping the momentum going for BiDi.
>>>>> >
>>>>> > International travel for a single day meeting is quite hard to
>>>>> justify. On the other hand, having a full day virtual meeting in the late
>>>>> spring sounds like a good opportunity to make more progress, and we'd be
>>>>> happy to participate.
>>>>> >
>>>>> > In terms of date, I think we are quite flexible, however it would be
>>>>> good to pick one that works for as many WG participants as possible.
>>>>> >
>>>>> > I also note that there's a W3C TPAC planned for September. I hope
>>>>> we're able to organize a BTT/WebDriver F2F at that meeting.
>>>>> >
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
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>>>
>>> --
>>> David
>>>
>>
>>
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>>
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>>
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