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Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: Automation Summit in Berlin [action required from implementors by 9 August]

From: Mathias Bynens <mths@google.com>
Date: Wed, 10 Aug 2022 10:31:51 +0200
Message-ID: <CADizRgZnqWf2t5DwiL4MrdFOn8MDXc3BGaY=1_GYr6H4Jt0GbA@mail.gmail.com>
To: Brandon Walderman <brwalder@microsoft.com>
Cc: Philip Jägenstedt <foolip@google.com>, Sam Sneddon <gsnedders@apple.com>, James Graham <james@hoppipolla.co.uk>, "public-browser-tools-testing@w3.org" <public-browser-tools-testing@w3.org>
Now that August 9th has passed, what’s the decision?

On Mon, Aug 8, 2022 at 6:13 PM Brandon Walderman <brwalder@microsoft.com>

> Microsoft won't be able to attend. However, we'd also prefer this as an
> official WG meeting, or at least one with the notes publicly available so
> that we can follow any outcomes and discussions.
> Thanks,
> Brandon
> ------------------------------
> *From:* Philip Jägenstedt <foolip@google.com>
> *Sent:* Monday, August 8, 2022 4:38 AM
> *To:* Sam Sneddon <gsnedders@apple.com>
> *Cc:* James Graham <james@hoppipolla.co.uk>;
> public-browser-tools-testing@w3.org <public-browser-tools-testing@w3.org>
> *Subject:* [EXTERNAL] Re: Automation Summit in Berlin [action required
> from implementors by 9 August]
> Alright, since Apple would be happier with this as an official WG meeting,
> we (Google) are good with this. Let's follow up on organizing another WG
> meeting after this.
> David, to confirm explicitly, I can confirm that some Googlers can attend,
> no concerns from us.
> Best regards,
> Philip
> On Fri, Aug 5, 2022 at 8:48 PM Sam Sneddon <gsnedders@apple.com> wrote:
> > On 5 Aug 2022, at 14:29, James Graham <james@hoppipolla.co.uk> wrote:
> >
> > To be concrete, my proposal at this point (which I think agrees with
> what foolip said) is:
> >
> > * The SauceLabs meetup returns to its original scope as a chance to work
> with Selenium implementors on BiDi support. It is not a WG meeting, just a
> chance to talk to that constituency and gather feedback on our progress.
> >
> > * Since there appears to be interest in a F2F in Europe, especially
> given the limited in-person attendance at TPAC, we begin the process of
> planning a formal F2F meeting in Europe. This would not be earlier than
> October (but could be later; date, location, etc. to be decided among the
> group).
> >
> As mentioned before, we would be much happier with an actual WG meeting,
> bound by normal W3C participation rules (per Process). Given the relatively
> close relationship between Selenium and WebDriver, it seems comparatively
> plausible that non-participants will end up recommending changes to BiDi,
> and these changes should go through the normal process with license grants
> etc.
> Additionally, we still have some concern if the majority of browser-side
> implementers are represented at the Sauce Labs hosted meeting and the
> extent to which it may practically become a WG meeting, regardless of the
> intent.
> /Sam
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