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Re: 3.10 control labelling Re: New Version of BP Addendum

From: Alan Chuter <achuter@technosite.es>
Date: Thu, 17 Sep 2009 08:55:24 +0200
Message-ID: <4AB1DD5C.6030901@technosite.es>
To: chaals@opera.com
CC: "Scheppe, Kai-Dietrich" <k.scheppe@telekom.de>, Public MWBP <public-bpwg@w3.org>
Hi Kai, Chaals, group,

There is a detailed description to this in WCAG 2.0 [1]. It seems a 
shame to be reinventing the wheel here.

I would question the appropriateness of using HTML5 for the examples 
while it is still a draft.

"User-visible input element" would be more accurate as "element for user 
input" or "input element for user interaction". Not all users see the form.

cheers,

Alan


[1] http://www.w3.org/TR/2008/NOTE-WCAG20-TECHS-20081211/H44

Charles McCathieNevile escribió:
> On Wed, 16 Sep 2009 17:23:56 +0200, Scheppe, Kai-Dietrich 
> <k.scheppe@telekom.de> wrote:
> 
>>  <<ED-mobileOK-pro10-tests-20090916.htm>>
> 
> Hi,
> 
> the verification steps 2 and 3 are partially redundant. I suggest 
> replacing them with:
> 
> Verify that the for attribute of the <label> element is present and 
> corresponds to the id attribute of a form control,
>   or that the label element contains the form control for which it is a 
> label. (Note: doing both of these is also acceptable)
> 
> (In general I suggest converting the evaluation procedures to ordered 
> lists, or otherwise clarifying that all steps should be undertaken).
> 
> Also, I would split the Examples section into two, as follows:
> 
> A label which requests a person's name but is associated with a birth 
> date field presented as drop down boxes, fails step 4 [3 if you accept 
> my collapsing of steps 2 and 3]
> 
> WRONG: <label>Your name <input type="date"/></label>
> 
> The for attribute and coresponding id are meaningless except that they 
> must match, so the following HTML5 fragment is correct:
> 
> <label for="you">Your Name </label><input type="text" name="you" 
> id="you"/> and
> <label for="name">Birthday <input type="date" id="name" 
> name="name"/></label>
> 
> cheers
> 
> Chaals
> 
> 


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