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Re: MobileOK scheme

From: Charles McCathieNevile <chaals@opera.com>
Date: Wed, 10 Jun 2009 18:39:15 +0200
To: "Jo Rabin" <jrabin@mtld.mobi>, "Mobile Web Best Practices Working Group WG" <public-bpwg@w3.org>
Message-ID: <op.uvbhvpf4wxe0ny@widsith.local>
On Tue, 09 Jun 2009 20:55:23 +0200, Jo Rabin <jrabin@mtld.mobi> wrote:

> I don't think I am clear exactly what your point is.
>
> Are you saying that experiences that take advantage of higher device  
> capabilities are not necessarily non mobileOK?

I am saying that providing an enhanced experience to more powerful devices  
is mobileOK (and is recommended behaviour). In other words, that it  
necessarily is not non-mobileOK to do so. (Breaking things for DDC is  
nonMobileOK. Improving them for better browsers is mobileOK and strongly  
recommended).

> Surely, if the higher tier experiences are mobileOK they'd also be  
> provided to the lower-tier devices?

No. What is provided to lower-tier devices is restricted in ways that were  
carefully designed not to preclude providing higher-tier systems with more.

> Perhaps this might be a cause of misunderstanding though, and would it  
> be better if we said:
>
> It is expected that content providers, as well as targetting DDC level  
> devices, will wish also to provide experiences that are not necessarily  
> mobileOK for more advanced mobile devices.

No. It would be better if you said

It is expected (and encouraged) that content providers, as well as  
targetting DDC level devices with appropriately delivered content, will  
enable richer experiences for more advanced mobile browsers.

cheers

Chaals

> ?
>
> Jo
>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: public-bpwg-request@w3.org [mailto:public-bpwg-request@w3.org] On
>> Behalf Of Charles McCathieNevile
>> Sent: 09 June 2009 19:05
>> To: Mobile Web Best Practices Working Group WG
>> Subject: MobileOK scheme
>>
>> In the section on DDC it says
>>
>> "The DDC is thus not a target to aspire to, it merely sets a base line
>> below which content providers do not need to provide their content. It
>> is
>> expected that content providers, as well as targetting DDC level
>> devices,
>> will wish also to provide non-mobileOK experiences for more advanced
>> mobile devices."
>>
>> As I understand the Best Practices, they actually recommend providing
>> an
>> experience for non-DDC devices which takes advantage of their ability
>> to
>> do more than DDC - in other words, using the additional capabilities of
>> more powerful browsers while ensuring that a DDC (or unknown device)
>> gets
>> content that meets the lowest level of requirements is in line with
>> MobileOK, rather than being non-mobileOK as the draft suggests.
>>
>> cheers
>>
>> Chaals
>>
>> --
>> Charles McCathieNevile  Opera Software, Standards Group
>>      je parle français -- hablo español -- jeg lærer norsk
>> http://my.opera.com/chaals       Try Opera: http://www.opera.com
>



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Charles McCathieNevile  Opera Software, Standards Group
     je parle français -- hablo español -- jeg lærer norsk
http://my.opera.com/chaals       Try Opera: http://www.opera.com
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