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Re: ACTION-660: Input to BP2, Scope and Criteria

From: Sean Owen <srowen@google.com>
Date: Thu, 14 Feb 2008 17:23:08 -0500
Message-ID: <e920a71c0802141423m6b712c84xdf40bd1c7a671f6c@mail.gmail.com>
To: "Sullivan, Bryan" <BS3131@att.com>
Cc: BPWG-Public <public-bpwg@w3.org>

On Thu, Feb 14, 2008 at 4:35 PM, Sullivan, Bryan <BS3131@att.com> wrote:
>  BP2 extends the focus to Web applications generally, which means an
>  application that is accessed and presented via Web technologies. Web
>  applications represent a spectrum of services and content, at the simple
>  end of which are typical Web browsing sites, presented in browsers,
>  which were the focus of BP1. The BP2 focus includes further
>  recommendations for addressing delivery context issues and for use of
>  advanced Web technologies, which apply both to browsers and non-browser
>  web runtime environments.

[srowen] Maybe I am being cranky here but this says the scope is full
(desktop?) web sites, and beyond, which seems far too broad for the
Mobile Web Initiative.

Do we mean we are talking about something besides (X)HTML? I heard
talk of S60s and Widgets.

One principle I'd like to establish is that this document is not
forward-looking, really, but rather a summary of what people are
really doing in the trenches today to make existing technologies work
on existing devices. I'd like to agree on -- or debate that -- first.

If we agree, then anything that's not (X)HTML over HTTP is probably
well out of scope. And if we agree there then we can sharpen this
text. I would write something like this...

"BP2 addresses best practices for delivering content to mobile devices
that are minimally capable of accessing Web content that was not
specifically designed for mobile devices, and what steps authors may
take to ensure that this Web content is still accessible and useful on
such devices."

>  1.4.1 Phasing
>  As discussed in the Scope document [Scope] there are many aspects to
>  Mobile Web Best Practices. BP2 represents the second phase of the Best
>  Practices development, i.e. beyond "Traditional Web Browsing".

[srowen] This I think has to be clarified to be sure we are all taking
about the same thing. I thought we were still talking about
Traditional Web Browsing from mobile devices, for example.

>  The BP2 is not intended as a landscape document, e.g. a general survey
>  of technologies and related issues in the mobile context.
>  Recommendations are included here if they meet specific criteria:
>  - are considered essential for successful deployment of web applications
>  in common delivery contexts
>  - are considered of fundamental importance to growth in the mobile web
>  application market
>  - can be readily verified through compliance testing, either automated
>  (preferred) or manual

[srowen] Same thing, just want to sharpen this. This doesn't yet give
me an understanding of what specifically we are talking about, when we
say common delivery contexts, mobile application market.
Received on Thursday, 14 February 2008 22:23:24 UTC

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