- From: Mark Nottingham <mnot@mnot.net>
- Date: Fri, 29 Aug 2008 14:18:15 +1000
- To: public-bpwg-comments@w3.org
My comments below. I agree with Mark Baker's comments, and have tried not to repeat them here, although a few may have slipped through. * Section 2.1 - "Alteration of HTTP requests and responses is not prohibited by HTTP other than in the circumstances referred to in [RFC2616 HTTP] Section 13.5.2." This isn't true; section 14.9.5 needs to be referenced here as well. * Section 3.4 / 3.5 "A [Content|Transformation] Deployment conforms to these guidelines if it follows the statements..." What does "follows" mean here -- if they conform to all MUST level requirements? SHOULD and MUST? * Section 4.1.2 "If the request contains a Cache-Control: no-transform directive proxies must forward the request unaltered to the server, other than to comply with transparent HTTP behaviour and as noted below." I'm not sure what this sentence means. * Section 4.1.3 "Proxies must act as though a no-transform directive is present (see 4.1.2 no-transform directive in Request) unless they are able positively to determine that the user agent is a Web browser." How do they positively" determine this? Using heuristics is far from a guaranteed mechanism. Moreover, what is the reasoning behind this? If the intent is to only allow transformation of content intended for presentation to humans, it would be better to say that. In any case, putting a MUST-level requirement on this seems strange. * Section 4.1.4 "Proxies should follow standard HTTP procedures in respect to caching..." This seems a strange way to phrase it, and I don't think it's useful to use RF2616 language here. * Section 4.1.5 Bullet points one and 3 are get-out-of-jail-free cards for non-transparent proxies to ignore no-transform and do other anti- social things. They should either be tightened up considerably, or removed. * Section 4.1.5 What is a "restructured desktop experience"? * Section 4.1.5 "proxies should use heuristics including comparisons of domain name to assess whether resources form part of the same "Web site." I don't think the W3C should be encouraging vendors to implement yet more undefined heuristics for this task; there are several approaches already in use (e.g., in cookies, HTTP, security context, etc.); please pick one and refer to it specifically. * Section 4.1.5.1 Proxies (and other clients) are allowed to and do reissue requests; by disallowing it, you're profiling HTTP, not providing guidelines. * Section 4.1.5.2 Again, not specifying the heuristics is going to lead to differences in behaviour, which will cause content authors to have to account for this as well. * Section 4.1.5.2 "A proxy must not re-issue a POST/PUT request..." Is this specific to POST and PUT, or all requests with bodies, or...? * Section 4.1.5.4 Use of the term 'representation' is confusing here; please pick another one. * Section 4.1.5.4 Using the same headers is often not a good idea. More specific, per-header advice would be more helpful. * Section 4.1.5.5 This is specifying new protocol elements; this is becoming a protocol, not guidelines. * Section 4.1.6.1 When a proxy inserts the URI to make a claim of conformance, exactly what are they claiming -- all must-level requirements are met? Should-level? What is the use case for this information? * Section 4.2.1 Requiring servers to respond with 406 is profiling HTTP; HTTP currently allows the server to send a 'default' representation even when the headers say that the client doesn't prefer it. * Section 4.2.2 "Servers must include a Cache-Control: no-transform directive if one is received in the HTTP request." Why? * Section 4.2.3.1 "Serves may base their actions on knowledge... but should not choose an Internet content type for a response based on an assumption or heuristics about behaiour of any intermediaries." Why not? * Section 4.3.2 Why can't proxies transform something that has already been transformed? * Section 4.3.3 Sniffing content for error messages is dangerous, and also unlikely to work. E.g., will you sniff for all languages and all possible phrases? How will you avoid false positives? Remove this section and require content providers to get it right. People may still do this in their products, but there's no reason to codify it. * Section 4.3.4 What's the purpose behind this behaviour? Cheers, -- Mark Nottingham http://www.mnot.net/
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