- From: Dennis Bournique <db@wapreview.com>
- Date: Thu, 28 Aug 2008 13:23:10 -0700 (PDT)
- To: public-bpwg-comments@w3.org
Thanks for the response Jo. I looked at the sections of the Guidelines that you referred to and the strongest statement regarding user opt-out is in the Introduction which is non-normative. > 1.4 Summary of Requirements > > 5 The Content Transformation proxy needs to be able to interact >with the user: > 1. to allow the user to disable its features; > 2. to alert the user to the fact that it has transformed > content and to allow access to an untransformed representation of the > content. > In the normative sections that you refer to: Section 4.1.5 is about not altering headers and does not address opt-out specifically. Section 4.1.5.3 refers to allowing the user to request a restructured experience - which I take to mean allowing the user to opt-in to transcoding even if the server provides a mobile specific version of the resource. I don't have any issues with that. Users should certainly be able to opt-in to transcoding of any content. What seems to be missing is a mandatory requirement that users be able to opt-out of content transformation for any page or all pages. The closest thing is in 4.3.6.1 > 4.3.6.1 Alteration of Response > > If a proxy alters the response then: > > 1. ... > 2. ... > 3. It should indicate to the user that the content has been > transformed for mobile presentation and provide an option to view the > original, unmodified content. I'm concerned with the use of "should" rather than "must". To me, "Should" implies that providing opt-out is recommend rather than mandated. In terms of not breaking existing sites and servers, opt-out is what is important. If the user believes that a transcoded resource is unsatisfactory, they "must" be able to request the original un-transformed resource. I'd think opt-out is too important to be a "should" Regarding session management, If the user requests an un-transcoded experience there is no need to maintain the current session. A simple link to the original resource should suffice. This is what several existing off-portal transcoders do including Skweezer, Mowser and Google GWT. The user may have to re-login, etc., but I don't see any practical way to maintain the session which is likely to based on cookies held by the proxy. Opting-out takes the proxy out of the picture so session loss is inevitable.
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