- From: Stiepan Aurélien Kovac <skovac@sunrise.ch>
- Date: Thu, 22 Mar 2018 15:46:49 +0100
- To: "Foster, Jeremiah" <JFoster@luxoft.com>, "philippe.colliot@mpsa.com" <philippe.colliot@mpsa.com>, "Paul.Boyes@inrix.com" <Paul.Boyes@inrix.com>, "Asadullah.Ansari@harman.com" <Asadullah.Ansari@harman.com>
- Cc: "wonsuk.lee@etri.re.kr" <wonsuk.lee@etri.re.kr>, "public-autowebplatform@w3.org" <public-autowebplatform@w3.org>, "peter.winzell@jayway.com" <peter.winzell@jayway.com>, "public-automotive@w3.org" <public-automotive@w3.org>
- Message-ID: <b78dade3-1d4a-d3f5-bb5e-f9819f893d97@sunrise.ch>
Hi again, For some reasons these very much on-topic messages ended up in my Spam folder... You may also have an interest regarding my talk on the selection of OSS* technology. (based on objective criteria) I will give a first version at the ITU-T tomorrow (to those attending WSIS: I think you can listen too), the room has yet to be announced, hour = 14h CET. *Open-Source Software Regards, Stiepan A. Kovac M Sc ICT Security Coordinator CEuniX.world proj. On 03/22/18 13:55, Foster, Jeremiah wrote: > On Thu, 2018-03-22 at 08:16 +0000, PHILIPPE COLLIOT wrote: >> >> Hi, >> >> My two cents.. >> >> >> >> May I remind you that Android is based on Linux J >> >> Wikipedia: >> >> /“Android is a mobile operating system developed by Google, based on >> a modified version of the Linux kernel and other open source software”/ >> >> >> >> Another important point is that, considering the raise of the >> rejection, by the public opinion, of the domination of the GAFA, >> NATU, BATX etc.., the recurrent scandals of massive data theft and >> today the Cambridge Analytica files , it’d be more rational for an >> OEM to keep control on the data, so to keep control on software, >> which means to be ANDROID agnostic.. just because Google core >> business is to harvest data… >> >> And, concerning the OEMS, my company future program is based on >> Linux, and, as far as I know, Toyota is going to launch AGL based IVIs… >> > > Toyota already has I believe; 2018 Camry in the US. In addition, other > Japanese car makers have followed Toyota's AGL lead and Panasonic, a > major Japanese supplier, is providing Linux based head units to > numerous car makers, like Mazda and Subaru. > > Also, some high profile European car makers that used their connection > to Android in marketing have either not deployed Android systems or > are struggling to make them meet automotive standards. Google > apparently does not have the head count that many OEMs expect to > support their suppliers manufacturing and software design work and > from what I understand there may be considerably more requirements > coming from OEMs than expected. > > There is a possibility that Google will be at GENIVI's AMM in Munich > and hopefully they'll participate and clarify what they see as the > APIs and low level systems that are good integration targets. > >> That doesn’t mean not to have a look at what Android uses, as OSS, >> interfaces or IPC.. and to be compatible. >> >> Without being stuck to Google road map.. >> > > +1 > >> >> >> Because Android _is not_ an open standard.. >> > > +1 > > Regards, > > Jeremiah > >> Cordialement, Regards, >> cid:image001.png@01D193D3.0D03A420 >> >> <https://twitter.com/groupePSA><https://www.facebook.com/groupePSA><https://www.linkedin.com/company/groupepsa?trk=top_nav_home><https://www.youtube.com/user/PSAPEUGEOTCITROEN> >> >> >> >> * * >> >> * * >> >> *Philippe COLLIOT* >> >> 湖理雄フィリップ >> >> DRD/DSEE/MCSI/IVI >> >> GENIVI LBS-EG lead >> Navigation & Map Expert >> >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------ >> >> +33 (0)9 66 66 35 65 >> >> _philippe.colliot@mpsa.com <mailto:philippe.colliot@mpsa.com>___ >> >> groupe-psa.com <http://www.psa-peugeot-citroen.com/> >> >> >> >> Ce message peut contenir des informations confidentielles. 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For further information on confidentiality and >> the risks inherent in electronic communication see >> http://disclaimer.groupe-psa.com <http://disclaimer.groupe-psa.com/> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> *De :*Paul Boyes [mailto:Paul.Boyes@inrix.com] >> *Envoyé :* jeudi 22 mars 2018 06:34 >> *À :* Ansari, Asadullah <Asadullah.Ansari@harman.com> >> *Cc :* Peter Winzell <peter.winzell@jayway.com>; >> 이원석<wonsuk.lee@etri.re.kr>; public-automotive >> <public-automotive@w3.org>; public-autowebplatform >> <public-autowebplatform@w3.org> >> *Objet :* Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: Initial draft of agenda for upcoming >> April f2f in Munich >> >> >> >> >>> Real sender address / Reelle adresse d expedition : >> public-automotive-request+bounce-philippe.colliot=mpsa.com@listhub.w3.org >> <mailto:public-automotive-request+bounce-philippe.colliot=mpsa.com@listhub.w3.org> >> <<< >> >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------ >> >> Well… I have some thoughts, but I am hoping to discuss if/how Android >> may change the group’s perspective and if new opportunities for >> standardization present due to Android. In other words, I would like >> to have a time boxed open discussion where people like yourself share >> your thoughts and experience. Because, as you say, it is becoming >> adopted more and more. >> >> >> >> Thoughts? >> >> >> >> *Paul J. Boyes* | INRIX | Director of Telematics and Standards - >> OpenCar | 206-276-9675 | paul.boyes@inrix.com >> <mailto:paul.boyes@inrix.com> | www.inrix.com >> <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__www.inrix.com_&d=BQMFAg&c=QbuapHRvbn0JdC8vTVkPHg&r=PRAN7lum5Ra662QLho8LU3bhFjBvLXn3bBkFbW0Amjo&m=V5l0WXfOEJwhcE0JsN06mQ5SQhpXL-DuAuK3YcnTZoc&s=OqQVi_DcS5rv8or8hZdFvY0re6YF0Wl-_8okxrxOF0w&e=> >> >> >> >>> On Mar 21, 2018, at 9:40 PM, Ansari, Asadullah >>> <Asadullah.Ansari@harman.com <mailto:Asadullah.Ansari@harman.com>> >>> wrote: >>> >>> >>> >>> Hi Paul, >>> >>> >>> >>> Now recently almost all infotainment or cockpit is based on android. >>> Very rare OEMs are with Linux. Frankly speaking whatever OEMs >>> programs, all are based on android. >>> >>> >>> >>> Do we have futuristic plan for android IVI with respect to >>> Automotive WG? >>> >>> >>> >>> BR >>> >>> /asad >>> >>> >>> >>> *From:* Paul Boyes [mailto:Paul.Boyes@inrix.com] >>> *Sent:* Thursday, March 22, 2018 1:51 AM >>> *To:* Peter Winzell <peter.winzell@jayway.com >>> <mailto:peter.winzell@jayway.com>> >>> *Cc:* 이원석 <wonsuk.lee@etri.re.kr <mailto:wonsuk.lee@etri.re.kr>>; >>> public-automotive <public-automotive@w3.org >>> <mailto:public-automotive@w3.org>>; public-autowebplatform >>> <public-autowebplatform@w3.org <mailto:public-autowebplatform@w3.org>> >>> *Subject:* [EXTERNAL] Re: Initial draft of agenda for upcoming April >>> f2f in Munich >>> >>> >>> >>> Peter, >>> >>> >>> >>> You can pin that one on me. I am seeing Android (not just Android >>> Auto) pop up in automotive quite a bit and am interested in hearing >>> thoughts and discussing it in relationship to the Automotive WG and >>> experience in general. Make sense? >>> >>> >>> >>> *Paul J. Boyes* | INRIX | Director of Telematics and Standards - >>> OpenCar | 206-276-9675 | paul.boyes@inrix.com >>> <mailto:paul.boyes@inrix.com> | www.inrix.com >>> <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__www.inrix.com_&d=BQMFAg&c=QbuapHRvbn0JdC8vTVkPHg&r=PRAN7lum5Ra662QLho8LU3bhFjBvLXn3bBkFbW0Amjo&m=V5l0WXfOEJwhcE0JsN06mQ5SQhpXL-DuAuK3YcnTZoc&s=OqQVi_DcS5rv8or8hZdFvY0re6YF0Wl-_8okxrxOF0w&e=> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>>> On Mar 21, 2018, at 11:53 AM, Peter Winzell >>>> <peter.winzell@jayway.com <mailto:peter.winzell@jayway.com>> wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Hi Wonsuk! >>>> >>>> I was just wondering why we are having phone mirroring(android >>>> auto) on the agenda for the f2f ? What is the idea behind that >>>> (sorry for have missed the meeting) >>>> >>>> Br >>>> >>>> Peter WInzell >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> 2018-03-06 21:34 GMT-08:00 이원석 <wonsuk.lee@etri.re.kr >>>> <mailto:wonsuk.lee@etri.re.kr>>: >>>> >>>>> Hi. Guys. >>>>> >>>>> I made an early draft of agenda below for upcoming f2f in Munich. >>>>> It’s only have input from Paul and me. So please review and let us >>>>> know your view! >>>>> >>>>> https://www.w3.org/auto/wg/wiki/Auto-f2f-april-2018 >>>>> <https://clicktime.symantec.com/a/1/7gBbvoxqgVWKxckyUq7HJ-jhL47fExD4oAiCYcZuzE4=?d=NZ9ZvdpBXsGnkdpeT9g_-7sZYoLal4fP8WithoQYsqNzW6rygV309yk1w_svVqBsnBXD3CIxsa_yRXsp-HF1qy9nk7F4JymgkfCiNeaS8PgxtSX3K7yw3pM5PZ5qF6m1_cYp628NJAjT_A8pP5MXM6ODpbuNrdjg3Tp5GcQyechvyH8Gx8LEk71by5nOLSC4e7T9YjY8zahvdEN9Aq97jyN1uGYMoc96jZEfEdEcPvUdtHeI3p-DE57-wR9M_d2mTD3nMjs8E2YOLgZtcwA27CaxfKJii2EKyYFxCKmQsAWqQ5p2WqyUtLPUjrfgRK9vMHVoa8asmM8I4Ht_WlFwOq3hAuO8P2YIFCRibn77Kv-8l83B3aZu2o9pgJ_NZKgTx808p3EavgYv2-pj2IK2af31PA_DPlv5hOgPioKKIrwb0A18OlsgC1t44u3RL-7S6csXOquza-EkNnYzgYmMwk6pZm535E-yVdQrjQ%3D%3D&u=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.w3.org%2Fauto%2Fwg%2Fwiki%2FAuto-f2f-april-2018> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Thanks! >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Cheers, >>>>> >>>>> Wonsuk. >>>>> >> >> > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > This e-mail and any attachment(s) are intended only for the > recipient(s) named above and others who have been specifically > authorized to receive them. 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