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Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: DTDL / VSSo alignment

From: Ted Guild <ted@w3.org>
Date: Fri, 02 Apr 2021 09:32:45 -0400
Message-ID: <accc309274914543dff9a61239b4f2a669f56fd6.camel@w3.org>
To: Jeff Beman <Jeffrey.Beman@microsoft.com>, Mike Glass <Mike.Glass@microsoft.com>, Mario Ortegon Cabrera <mario.ortegon@microsoft.com>, Ash Beitz <ashbeitz@microsoft.com>, Adrian Collier <acollier@microsoft.com>, "'Daniel.DW.Wilms'" <Daniel.DW.Wilms@bmw.de>, "'Adnan.Bekan'" <Adnan.Bekan@bmwgroup.com>, "'Benjamin.Klotz@eurecom.fr'" <Benjamin.Klotz@eurecom.fr>, Christian Schormann <cschorm@microsoft.com>, "John (JD) Douceur" <johndo@microsoft.com>, Peter Provost <Peter.Provost@microsoft.com>, May Ji <mayji@microsoft.com>, Brian Crawford <Brian.Crawford@microsoft.com>
Cc: 'Gunnar Andersson' <gandersson@genivi.org>, "'Philippe Robin (GENIVI)'" <philippe.robin@technoveo.com>, 'public-automotive' <public-automotive@w3.org>, "'jay@autonomic.ai'" <jay@autonomic.ai>, "'Daniel.Alvarez-Coello'" <Daniel.Alvarez-Coello@bmwgroup.com>
As Monday is a bank holiday next week, set the first one to be on 12
April with invitees you provided and our group's internal list 

member-automotive@w3.org

Anyone else wishing to attend that isn't subscribed to that list can
let me know and I'll gladly include them.

I labeled it VSSo alignment as we will be seeking other coordination in
addition to DTDL. We expect that to be the principal focus at least
initially and will make clear in advance if a given call might be
split, etc.

On Mon, 2021-03-29 at 23:45 +0000, Jeff Beman wrote:
> Ted, please also invite our other DTDL expert, Brian Crawford <
> Brian.Crawford@microsoft.com>.
> 
> Thanks!
> 
> -jeff
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Jeff Beman 
> Sent: Monday, March 29, 2021 4:04 PM
> To: ted@w3.org; Mike Glass <Mike.Glass@microsoft.com>; Mario Ortegon
> Cabrera <mario.ortegon@microsoft.com>; Ash Beitz <
> ashbeitz@microsoft.com>; Adrian Collier <acollier@microsoft.com>;
> Daniel.DW.Wilms <Daniel.DW.Wilms@bmw.de>; Adnan.Bekan <
> Adnan.Bekan@bmwgroup.com>; Benjamin.Klotz@eurecom.fr; Christian
> Schormann <cschorm@microsoft.com>; John (JD) Douceur <
> johndo@microsoft.com>; Peter Provost <Peter.Provost@microsoft.com>;
> May Ji <mayji@microsoft.com>
> Cc: Gunnar Andersson <gandersson@genivi.org>; Philippe Robin (GENIVI)
> <philippe.robin@technoveo.com>; public-automotive <
> public-automotive@w3.org>; jay@autonomic.ai; Daniel.Alvarez-Coello <
> Daniel.Alvarez-Coello@bmwgroup.com>
> Subject: RE: [EXTERNAL] Re: DTDL / VSSo alignment
> 
> Ted, please invite the following DTDL experts from our side:
> 
> Christian Schormann <cschorm@microsoft.com>, confirmed but cannot
> guarantee he can be at every meeting 
> John (JD) Douceur <johndo@microsoft.com>, confirmed 
> Peter Provost <Peter.Provost@microsoft.com>, unconfirmed but please
> invite
> 
> Please optionally include the following folks from MCVP:
> 
> Mike Glass <Mike.Glass@microsoft.com>
> Mario Ortegon Cabrera <mario.ortegon@microsoft.com> 
> Ash Beitz <ashbeitz@microsoft.com> 
> Adrian Collier <acollier@microsoft.com> 
> Jeff Beman <Jeffrey.Beman@microsoft.com>
> 
> Thanks!
> 
> -jeff
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Ted Guild <ted@w3.org>
> Sent: Monday, March 29, 2021 2:02 PM
> To: Mike Glass <Mike.Glass@microsoft.com>; Mario Ortegon Cabrera <
> mario.ortegon@microsoft.com>; Jeff Beman <Jeffrey.Beman@microsoft.com
> >; Ash Beitz <ashbeitz@microsoft.com>; Adrian Collier <
> acollier@microsoft.com>; Daniel.DW.Wilms <Daniel.DW.Wilms@bmw.de>;
> Adnan.Bekan <Adnan.Bekan@bmwgroup.com>; Benjamin.Klotz@eurecom.fr
> Cc: Gunnar Andersson <gandersson@genivi.org>; Philippe Robin (GENIVI)
> <philippe.robin@technoveo.com>; public-automotive <
> public-automotive@w3.org>; jay@autonomic.ai; Daniel.Alvarez-Coello <
> Daniel.Alvarez-Coello@bmwgroup.com>
> Subject: [EXTERNAL] Re: DTDL / VSSo alignment
> 
> Jeff et al,
> 
> When last we met we agreed to continue technical alignment
> discussions between DTDL and VSSo, possibly influencing latter as we
> are having active design refactoring discussions at present. You were
> going to see who from DTDL side may be available/appropriate.
> 
> Daniel and I wanted to suggest biweekly for now, Mondays at 800PST,
> 11EST, 1800IST. Let us know if that could work.
> 
> 
> On Mon, 2021-03-08 at 16:45 -0500, Ted Guild wrote:
> > In two weeks at the same time we agreed to explore the two early 
> > approaches on VSSo2DTDL from BMW and MS. Updated WebEx calendar
> > invite 
> > went out.
> > 
> > Separately MS is welcome to send people to call tomorrow at 8am PDT
> > on 
> > VSSo with the following MS Teams link.
> > 
> > https://teams.microsoft.com/l/meetup-join/19%3ameeting_NDFkOTNkMzQtODk
> > 0OC00MjQwLTgyNTctYjIxODY4YmQ3YzE2%40thread.v2/0?context=%7b%22Tid%2
> > 2%3
> > a%22a44d4ce6-0a78-4d13-96de-
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> > 3ec7-4bd3-a4d4-a9d4268d91cc%22%7d
> > 
> > Rough notes from today's call:
> > 
> > https://nam06.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.
> > w3.org%2F2021%2F03%2F08-auto-
> > minutes.html&amp;data=04%7C01%7CJeffrey.B
> > eman%40microsoft.com%7C296c225a753845b79a8508d8f2f5e352%7C72f988bf8
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> > 
> > On Thu, 2021-03-04 at 15:07 -0500, Ted Guild wrote:
> > > Updated invite sent to correct am/pm toggle in Webex ui.
> > > 
> > > On Thu, 2021-03-04 at 14:13 -0500, Ted Guild wrote:
> > > > Based on the doodle, Monday 8PDT/11EDT/17CET/18IST was the
> > > > obvious 
> > > > choice. A few additional people responded and added them to
> > > > the 
> > > > WebEx invite in addition to those in the cc.
> > > > 
> > > > I will endeavor to take adequate notes for those who cannot
> > > > make 
> > > > it.
> > > > 
> > > > On Wed, 2021-03-03 at 16:11 -0500, Ted Guild wrote:
> > > > > For those that haven't answered yet, please fill in the
> > > > > survey 
> > > > > so we can settle on a time next week. As suspected due to 
> > > > > timezone range, there is no clear winner. I will choose based
> > > > > on 
> > > > > critical mass and try to ensure we have representation from
> > > > > key 
> > > > > organizations present.
> > > > > 
> > > > > On Mon, 2021-03-01 at 11:14 -0500, Ted Guild wrote:
> > > > > > Hi Mike and your MS colleagues,
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > In a previous call with you and GENIVI, I let you know that
> > > > > > we 
> > > > > > are starting standards work on the ontology VSSo. We
> > > > > > discussed 
> > > > > > potential to map or otherwise align DTDL with it. I want
> > > > > > to 
> > > > > > explore that specifically in more detail with you and some
> > > > > > of 
> > > > > > the stakeholders in VSSo next week.
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > To find a time I created a doodle.
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > https://nam06.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2
> > > > > > F%2Fdoodle.com%2Fpoll%2F3bmxkftt66kz44qg%3Futm_source%3Dpol
> > > > > > l%2
> > > > > > 6utm_medium%3Dlink&amp;data=04%7C01%7CJeffrey.Beman%40micro
> > > > > > sof
> > > > > > t.com%7C296c225a753845b79a8508d8f2f5e352%7C72f988bf86f141af
> > > > > > 91a
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> > > > > > JXV
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> > > > > > XR7
> > > > > > yp0g7%2BzpCtJ1%2F8%3D&amp;reserved=0
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > Timezones span from IST to PDT and as such do not have 
> > > > > > anything starting later than 10pm IST nor earlier than 7am 
> > > > > > PDT.
> > > > > > Hopefully
> > > > > > we
> > > > > > can
> > > > > > find something in the middle convenient to a critical mass
> > > > > > to 
> > > > > > have this conversation.
> > > > > > 
> --
> Ted Guild <ted@w3.org>
> W3C Automotive Lead
> https://nam06.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.w3.org%2Fauto&amp;data=04%7C01%7CJeffrey.Beman%40microsoft.com%7C296c225a753845b79a8508d8f2f5e352%7C72f988bf86f141af91ab2d7cd011db47%7C1%7C0%7C637526485217569054%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000&amp;sdata=CLb97VGm5nesBEGltknmxDF6csbeKW6CAjgFvt5lR7Y%3D&amp;reserved=0
> 
> 
> 
-- 
Ted Guild <ted@w3.org>
W3C Automotive Lead
https://www.w3.org/auto
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