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Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: DTDL / VSSo alignment

From: Ted Guild <ted@w3.org>
Date: Mon, 26 Apr 2021 09:12:55 -0400
Message-ID: <162ff4f00dc8e98507537526a18c7c0fe74fa9bf.camel@w3.org>
To: Jeff Beman <Jeffrey.Beman@microsoft.com>, Mike Glass <Mike.Glass@microsoft.com>, Mario Ortegon Cabrera <mario.ortegon@microsoft.com>, Ash Beitz <ashbeitz@microsoft.com>, Adrian Collier <acollier@microsoft.com>, "'Daniel.DW.Wilms'" <Daniel.DW.Wilms@bmw.de>, "'Adnan.Bekan'" <Adnan.Bekan@bmwgroup.com>, "'Benjamin.Klotz@eurecom.fr'" <Benjamin.Klotz@eurecom.fr>, Christian Schormann <cschorm@microsoft.com>, "John (JD) Douceur" <johndo@microsoft.com>, Peter Provost <Peter.Provost@microsoft.com>, May Ji <mayji@microsoft.com>, Brian Crawford <Brian.Crawford@microsoft.com>
Cc: 'Gunnar Andersson' <gandersson@genivi.org>, "'Philippe Robin (GENIVI)'" <philippe.robin@technoveo.com>, 'public-automotive' <public-automotive@w3.org>, "'jay@autonomic.ai'" <jay@autonomic.ai>, "'Daniel.Alvarez-Coello'" <Daniel.Alvarez-Coello@bmwgroup.com>
Daniel cannot make it today so rescheduling for next week, updated
invite to go out shortly.

On Fri, 2021-04-02 at 09:32 -0400, Ted Guild wrote:
> As Monday is a bank holiday next week, set the first one to be on 12
> April with invitees you provided and our group's internal list 
> 
> member-automotive@w3.org
> 
> Anyone else wishing to attend that isn't subscribed to that list can
> let me know and I'll gladly include them.
> 
> I labeled it VSSo alignment as we will be seeking other coordination
> in
> addition to DTDL. We expect that to be the principal focus at least
> initially and will make clear in advance if a given call might be
> split, etc.
> 
> On Mon, 2021-03-29 at 23:45 +0000, Jeff Beman wrote:
> > Ted, please also invite our other DTDL expert, Brian Crawford <
> > Brian.Crawford@microsoft.com>.
> > 
> > Thanks!
> > 
> > -jeff
> > 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Jeff Beman 
> > Sent: Monday, March 29, 2021 4:04 PM
> > To: ted@w3.org; Mike Glass <Mike.Glass@microsoft.com>; Mario
> > Ortegon
> > Cabrera <mario.ortegon@microsoft.com>; Ash Beitz <
> > ashbeitz@microsoft.com>; Adrian Collier <acollier@microsoft.com>;
> > Daniel.DW.Wilms <Daniel.DW.Wilms@bmw.de>; Adnan.Bekan <
> > Adnan.Bekan@bmwgroup.com>; Benjamin.Klotz@eurecom.fr; Christian
> > Schormann <cschorm@microsoft.com>; John (JD) Douceur <
> > johndo@microsoft.com>; Peter Provost <Peter.Provost@microsoft.com>;
> > May Ji <mayji@microsoft.com>
> > Cc: Gunnar Andersson <gandersson@genivi.org>; Philippe Robin
> > (GENIVI)
> > <philippe.robin@technoveo.com>; public-automotive <
> > public-automotive@w3.org>; jay@autonomic.ai; Daniel.Alvarez-Coello
> > <
> > Daniel.Alvarez-Coello@bmwgroup.com>
> > Subject: RE: [EXTERNAL] Re: DTDL / VSSo alignment
> > 
> > Ted, please invite the following DTDL experts from our side:
> > 
> > Christian Schormann <cschorm@microsoft.com>, confirmed but cannot
> > guarantee he can be at every meeting 
> > John (JD) Douceur <johndo@microsoft.com>, confirmed 
> > Peter Provost <Peter.Provost@microsoft.com>, unconfirmed but please
> > invite
> > 
> > Please optionally include the following folks from MCVP:
> > 
> > Mike Glass <Mike.Glass@microsoft.com>
> > Mario Ortegon Cabrera <mario.ortegon@microsoft.com> 
> > Ash Beitz <ashbeitz@microsoft.com> 
> > Adrian Collier <acollier@microsoft.com> 
> > Jeff Beman <Jeffrey.Beman@microsoft.com>
> > 
> > Thanks!
> > 
> > -jeff
> > 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Ted Guild <ted@w3.org>
> > Sent: Monday, March 29, 2021 2:02 PM
> > To: Mike Glass <Mike.Glass@microsoft.com>; Mario Ortegon Cabrera <
> > mario.ortegon@microsoft.com>; Jeff Beman <
> > Jeffrey.Beman@microsoft.com
> > > ; Ash Beitz <ashbeitz@microsoft.com>; Adrian Collier <
> > acollier@microsoft.com>; Daniel.DW.Wilms <Daniel.DW.Wilms@bmw.de>;
> > Adnan.Bekan <Adnan.Bekan@bmwgroup.com>; Benjamin.Klotz@eurecom.fr
> > Cc: Gunnar Andersson <gandersson@genivi.org>; Philippe Robin
> > (GENIVI)
> > <philippe.robin@technoveo.com>; public-automotive <
> > public-automotive@w3.org>; jay@autonomic.ai; Daniel.Alvarez-Coello
> > <
> > Daniel.Alvarez-Coello@bmwgroup.com>
> > Subject: [EXTERNAL] Re: DTDL / VSSo alignment
> > 
> > Jeff et al,
> > 
> > When last we met we agreed to continue technical alignment
> > discussions between DTDL and VSSo, possibly influencing latter as
> > we
> > are having active design refactoring discussions at present. You
> > were
> > going to see who from DTDL side may be available/appropriate.
> > 
> > Daniel and I wanted to suggest biweekly for now, Mondays at 800PST,
> > 11EST, 1800IST. Let us know if that could work.
> > 
> > 
> > On Mon, 2021-03-08 at 16:45 -0500, Ted Guild wrote:
> > > In two weeks at the same time we agreed to explore the two early 
> > > approaches on VSSo2DTDL from BMW and MS. Updated WebEx calendar
> > > invite 
> > > went out.
> > > 
> > > Separately MS is welcome to send people to call tomorrow at 8am
> > > PDT
> > > on 
> > > VSSo with the following MS Teams link.
> > > 
> > > https://teams.microsoft.com/l/meetup-join/19%3ameeting_NDFkOTNkMzQtODk
> > > 0OC00MjQwLTgyNTctYjIxODY4YmQ3YzE2%40thread.v2/0?context=%7b%22Tid
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> > > 3ec7-4bd3-a4d4-a9d4268d91cc%22%7d
> > > 
> > > Rough notes from today's call:
> > > 
> > > https://nam06.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.
> > > w3.org%2F2021%2F03%2F08-auto-
> > > minutes.html&amp;data=04%7C01%7CJeffrey.B
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> > > 
> > > On Thu, 2021-03-04 at 15:07 -0500, Ted Guild wrote:
> > > > Updated invite sent to correct am/pm toggle in Webex ui.
> > > > 
> > > > On Thu, 2021-03-04 at 14:13 -0500, Ted Guild wrote:
> > > > > Based on the doodle, Monday 8PDT/11EDT/17CET/18IST was the
> > > > > obvious 
> > > > > choice. A few additional people responded and added them to
> > > > > the 
> > > > > WebEx invite in addition to those in the cc.
> > > > > 
> > > > > I will endeavor to take adequate notes for those who cannot
> > > > > make 
> > > > > it.
> > > > > 
> > > > > On Wed, 2021-03-03 at 16:11 -0500, Ted Guild wrote:
> > > > > > For those that haven't answered yet, please fill in the
> > > > > > survey 
> > > > > > so we can settle on a time next week. As suspected due to 
> > > > > > timezone range, there is no clear winner. I will choose
> > > > > > based
> > > > > > on 
> > > > > > critical mass and try to ensure we have representation from
> > > > > > key 
> > > > > > organizations present.
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > On Mon, 2021-03-01 at 11:14 -0500, Ted Guild wrote:
> > > > > > > Hi Mike and your MS colleagues,
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > In a previous call with you and GENIVI, I let you know
> > > > > > > that
> > > > > > > we 
> > > > > > > are starting standards work on the ontology VSSo. We
> > > > > > > discussed 
> > > > > > > potential to map or otherwise align DTDL with it. I want
> > > > > > > to 
> > > > > > > explore that specifically in more detail with you and
> > > > > > > some
> > > > > > > of 
> > > > > > > the stakeholders in VSSo next week.
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > To find a time I created a doodle.
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > https://nam06.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2
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> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > Timezones span from IST to PDT and as such do not have 
> > > > > > > anything starting later than 10pm IST nor earlier than
> > > > > > > 7am 
> > > > > > > PDT.
> > > > > > > Hopefully
> > > > > > > we
> > > > > > > can
> > > > > > > find something in the middle convenient to a critical
> > > > > > > mass
> > > > > > > to 
> > > > > > > have this conversation.
> > > > > > > 
> > --
> > Ted Guild <ted@w3.org>
> > W3C Automotive Lead
> > https://nam06.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.w3.org%2Fauto&amp;data=04%7C01%7CJeffrey.Beman%40microsoft.com%7C296c225a753845b79a8508d8f2f5e352%7C72f988bf86f141af91ab2d7cd011db47%7C1%7C0%7C637526485217569054%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000&amp;sdata=CLb97VGm5nesBEGltknmxDF6csbeKW6CAjgFvt5lR7Y%3D&amp;reserved=0
> > 
> > 
> > 
-- 
Ted Guild <ted@w3.org>
W3C Automotive Lead
https://www.w3.org/auto
Received on Monday, 26 April 2021 13:13:03 UTC

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