RE: {Fraud?} {Disarmed} Re: Agenda for 9 July 2016 Auto-WCAG rule development call

Frank,

What happens if you can’t tell if there is an accessibility issue, for example a video may have open captions for a video or an audio description maybe part of the standard audio track?

Jon


From: Frank Berker [mailto:fb@ftb-esv.de]
Sent: Tuesday, May 31, 2016 8:47 AM
To: public-auto-wcag@w3.org; Gunderson, Jon R <jongund@illinois.edu>
Subject: Re: {Fraud?} {Disarmed} Re: Agenda for 9 July 2016 Auto-WCAG rule development call

Hi Jon,

in the rules we check for SC Failures as well as Passes based on the recommended techniques. The ARIA- and HTML5-specs are considered. The best example may be the use of the  Text Alternative Computation Algorithm<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__www.w3.org_community_auto-2Dwcag_wiki_Text-5FAlternative-5FComputation&d=CwMFaQ&c=8hUWFZcy2Z-Za5rBPlktOQ&r=REZD8fc2AwufInstfW3L5jSLVS8bjZtAodDOhat7yAI&m=SMLEqWFBKE85r8ZMOjmla7oyK_vTi_IaeHZwTB5AeMQ&s=huW7IBu_4cPhmnC2V0u8-SHu8uNq4kN0MpTWeol3l5o&e=> in most test cases of SC 1.1.1.
As for as I know, ee did not explicitly distinguish between legacy HTML and HTML5 as the OAA-rules do.

Besides, I really like the outcomes of the OpenAjax-Alliance. I haven't watched it for a couple of month and it's really matured.

Best regards
Frank

Am 31.05.2016 um 15:17 schrieb Gunderson, Jon R:
Frank,

Are the rules just about representing WCAG SC Failures (basically you did something wrong)?

What about the design patterns in ARIA 1.1 and HTML5?

ARIA 1.1 and HTML5 design patterns are what the OAA Rules are based on:
https://fae.disability.illinois.edu/rulesets/


Jon


From: Frank Berker <fb@ftb-esv.de<mailto:fb@ftb-esv.de>>
Date: Monday, May 30, 2016 at 6:26 AM
To: "public-auto-wcag@w3.org<mailto:public-auto-wcag@w3.org>" <public-auto-wcag@w3.org<mailto:public-auto-wcag@w3.org>>
Subject: Agenda for 9 July 2016 Auto-WCAG rule development call
Resent-From: <public-auto-wcag@w3.org<mailto:public-auto-wcag@w3.org>>
Resent-Date: Monday, May 30, 2016 at 6:27 AM

Hi everyone,
as you may have heard, we set up an additional call focusing on rule design.
And you may also have heard, that the rules went to GitHub. The repo is at MailScanner has detected a possible fraud attempt from "urldefense.proofpoint.com" claiming to be https://github.com/auto-wcag/auto-wcag<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__github.com_auto-2Dwcag_auto-2Dwcag&d=CwMFaQ&c=8hUWFZcy2Z-Za5rBPlktOQ&r=REZD8fc2AwufInstfW3L5jSLVS8bjZtAodDOhat7yAI&m=1Wbkb59XxOUAjziYj2bm6Wdz4Cy2DXhPh7hdWB2ER6U&s=srvSo-ayMIof8vcqg1yjQtIvWSIG8r-4HiL3l_Khgpk&e=>.
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Agenda
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1) Action Items: MailScanner has detected a possible fraud attempt from "urldefense.proofpoint.com" claiming to be https://www.w3.org/community/auto-wcag/wiki/Action_items<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__www.w3.org_community_auto-2Dwcag_wiki_Action-5Fitems&d=CwMFaQ&c=8hUWFZcy2Z-Za5rBPlktOQ&r=REZD8fc2AwufInstfW3L5jSLVS8bjZtAodDOhat7yAI&m=1Wbkb59XxOUAjziYj2bm6Wdz4Cy2DXhPh7hdWB2ER6U&s=F3XNF86oBpsRdiSEEvzoDXfWSoc6lcEhtrbqzXm07tw&e=>
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5) General: Discussion on review workflow
6) General: Discussion on rules format (templates, links, algorithms)
7) Final thoughts

Kind regards
Frank


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