Re: German Translation WCAG 2.1 - Disapproval

Hi Stefan,

Thanks for your reply. The page you refer to is only related to 
translations for the Internationalization (I18n) Activity from W3C. It 
seems also outdated.

You can find the current translation guidelines for W3C Standards 
(“Recommendations”) here: 
https://www.w3.org/Consortium/Translation/Overview.html

Among these guidelines, it states:

> **Do not change or adapt or add to the meaning of the English version 
> in your translation.** If you have suggestions for changes to the 
> English version, provide them to the technical report editors as 
> indicated in *Status of this Document section** of the technical 
> report.

The policy for Authorized Translations which builds on these volunteer 
translation criteria can be found here: 
https://www.w3.org/2005/02/TranslationPolicy.html

I do not find any information on how to add translation notes inside the 
normative text. (But this might be under-documented.)

That said, the WCAG 2.0 translation has an “Anmerkungen” section in 
the top disclaimer area, and links to a separate “Anmerkungen zur 
deutschen Übersetzung der WCAG 2.0” page. 
(https://www.w3.org/Translations/WCAG20-de/anmerkungen.html)

I think adding a note about the wording in a similar place/document for 
WCAG 2.1 might help to clarify the issue. I wonder if that could ease 
the concerns raised by Gottfried Zimmermann.

👋 Eric

On 23 Mar 2022, at 22:22, Stefan Schumacher wrote:

> Hello editors and translators,
>
> Am 23.03.22 um 09:48 schrieb Eric Eggert:
>> The translation of assistive technology as “assistierende 
>> Techniken” was a WCAG 2.0 translation consensus reached as German 
>> speaking countries have different names. The discussion only refers 
>> to sources in Germany for the impetus of the change request where 
>> “assistive Technologien” is prevalent.
>
> in the past we used to add a "comment of the translator(s)" in a box 
> that was clearly marked as a comment of the translator(s).
>
> Adding these comments helps readers to understand why translators used 
> terms that, e.g., might be not up to date anymore.
>
> A comment why the term "assistierende Techniken" is used and that it 
> might be referred to as "Assistive Techniken" or "Assistive 
> Technologien" in other sources and why this decision was made, would 
> help in this case.
>
> Adding these comments is fine with W3C as you can see in
> https://www.w3.org/International/2004/06/translation-process.
> See "Changes to the text".
> Please correct me if that is not true for authorized translations.
>
> I would say a good translation should have these comments in place 
> where a precise translation is not possible, where multiple terms 
> might be right, and in case there are already Errata that correct the 
> original version.
>
> Regards
> Stefan Schumacher
>
> PS. When I translated WCAG 2.1 end of 2018 up to chapter 1.4 without 
> looking at WCAG 2.0 I used "assistierende Technologie". Even though I 
> prefer "Technologie" over "Technik" myself, I would not deem it a 
> reason for a general disapproval.


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