Re: Seeking user and developer feedback on ARIA live region technology before redesign

To clarify, I’m not personally upset about the way this turned out. Apologies if it came across that way, and kudos to Aaron for reaching out privately to ensure there was no offense taken.

Thanks for taking this initiative, and thanks for considering a collaborative survey for future efforts.


> On Apr 3, 2023, at 11:53 AM, Aaron Leventhal <aleventhal@google.com> wrote:
> 
> Ok, we'll know for next time. TBH this was not intentional. We talk to Microsoft a lot because we share the same codebase, and I wanted them to get actual dev/user feedback before they started on a design or prototype. Previously, when Travis Leithead was working on this project, they were going to go ahead with a design and prototype without gathering that info at all. So, somehow in the process of being more open, we look less open!
> 
> On Mon, Apr 3, 2023 at 2:51 PM James Craig <jcraig@apple.com <mailto:jcraig@apple.com>> wrote:
>> It’s unfortunate that the survey ended up as a Microsoft-specific site, since it’d be more difficult for the ARIA group to promote as a collaborative effort, than if it had been a W3C survey.
>> 
>> 
>>> On Apr 3, 2023, at 11:44 AM, Aaron Leventhal <aleventhal@google.com <mailto:aleventhal@google.com>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> And just to clarify, this is a standards initiative, despite it mentioning specific vendors. Ideas and participation from all parties is only a plus, obviously .... nobody wants to come back for Live Regions 3.0 in 10 years!
>>> 
>>> On Mon, Apr 3, 2023 at 2:05 PM Aaron Leventhal <aleventhal@google.com <mailto:aleventhal@google.com>> wrote:
>>>> Hi all, the Google Chrome team is working together with Microsoft to try to create a new standard currently called ariaNotify, which we hope will solve some of the issues with ARIA live regions. We realized it would be best to first get user and developer feedback on use cases, pain points, etc. so that we solve the actual problems out there. If you love or hate live regions, we want to hear from you! 
>>>> 
>>>> Developer feedback about Live Regions <http://aka.ms/LiveRegionDevSurvey>
>>>> Technical screen reader feedback about Live Regions <http://aka.ms/LiveRegionScreenReaderSurvey>
>>>>  
>>>> 
>>>> These surveys are open to anyone—feel free to forward around to people that might be interested. 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Thanks for your time and encouragement!
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Aaron
>>>> 
>>