- From: David MacDonald <david100@sympatico.ca>
- Date: Fri, 13 Apr 2018 13:18:52 -0400
- To: Bryan Garaventa <bryan.garaventa@levelaccess.com>
- Cc: James Nurthen <nurthen@adobe.com>, "Schnabel, Stefan" <stefan.schnabel@sap.com>, ARIA Working Group <public-aria@w3.org>
- Message-ID: <CAAdDpDbEHN-sQRXA2AgkwH4Z1gf1EronjwbSpP-HdiiZSGWMXA@mail.gmail.com>
I filed an aria bug #715 https://github.com/w3c/aria/issues/715 Cheers, David MacDonald *Can**Adapt* *Solutions Inc.* Tel: 613.235.4902 LinkedIn <http://www.linkedin.com/in/davidmacdonald100> twitter.com/davidmacd GitHub <https://github.com/DavidMacDonald> www.Can-Adapt.com <http://www.can-adapt.com/> * Adapting the web to all users* * Including those with disabilities* If you are not the intended recipient, please review our privacy policy <http://www.davidmacd.com/disclaimer.html> On Fri, Apr 13, 2018 at 1:09 PM, Bryan Garaventa < bryan.garaventa@levelaccess.com> wrote: > If the desire is to keep it that way, then I’ll leave it as is. I leave it > to you guys to decide which. > > > > > > Bryan Garaventa > > Accessibility Fellow > > Level Access, Inc. > > Bryan.Garaventa@LevelAccess.com > > 415.624.2709 (o) > > www.LevelAccess.com > > > > *From:* James Nurthen <nurthen@adobe.com> > *Sent:* Friday, April 13, 2018 9:10 AM > *To:* Bryan Garaventa <bryan.garaventa@levelaccess.com>; David MacDonald < > david100@sympatico.ca>; Schnabel, Stefan <stefan.schnabel@sap.com> > *Cc:* ARIA Working Group <public-aria@w3.org> > *Subject:* Re: AccName question about multiple description edge case > > > > I think changing something like this would lead to a lot of extra > verbosity which would be undesireable. > > Title should never be used for anything important anyway – as keyboard > users cannot get to it (in most browsers) either. > > > > *James Nurthen* | Accessibility Engineer | Adobe | p. > 415.832.2734 | c. 415.987.1918 | nurthen@adobe.com > > > > > > *From: *Bryan Garaventa <bryan.garaventa@levelaccess.com> > *Date: *Friday, April 13, 2018 at 9:08 AM > *To: *David MacDonald <david100@sympatico.ca>, "Schnabel, Stefan" < > stefan.schnabel@sap.com> > *Cc: *ARIA Working Group <public-aria@w3.org> > *Subject: *RE: AccName question about multiple description edge case > *Resent-From: *<public-aria@w3.org> > *Resent-Date: *Friday, April 13, 2018 at 9:07 AM > > > > Thanks, > > I understand, and have always thought the invisible loss of accessible > information was strange. > > > > Should this be raised as an issue to be added to the naming computation, > or should this be ignored as something everybody knows and just deals with? > > > > Thanks, > > Bryan > > > > > > Bryan Garaventa > > Accessibility Fellow > > Level Access, Inc. > > Bryan.Garaventa@LevelAccess.com > > 415.624.2709 (o) > > www.LevelAccess.com > > > > *From:* David MacDonald <david100@sympatico.ca> > *Sent:* Friday, April 13, 2018 5:42 AM > *To:* Schnabel, Stefan <stefan.schnabel@sap.com> > *Cc:* ARIA Working Group <public-aria@w3.org>; Bryan Garaventa < > bryan.garaventa@levelaccess.com> > *Subject:* Re: AccName question about multiple description edge case > > > > It is the expected result because the title is a swing attribute that > fills an empty accname or accdesciption > > > > My preference would be that if it is different then it is a concatenation > with the accdescrption... > > > > There a lot if override errors in the wild > > > > On Fri, Apr 13, 2018 at 5:34 AM Schnabel, Stefan <stefan.schnabel@sap.com> > wrote: > > Hi Bryan, > > I understood this as override accepted by the group ever since the very > beginning. > Not clear where exactly this is handled in the accessible description > computation requirements. > > Personally, I feel unhappy with this override. > > Regards > Stefan > > -----Original Message----- > From: Bryan Garaventa [mailto:bryan.garaventa@levelaccess.com] > Sent: Friday, April 13, 2018 9:31 AM > To: ARIA Working Group <public-aria@w3.org> > Subject: AccName question about multiple description edge case > > Hi, > I'd like to verify the expectation for the following testable statement. > > <input type="text" aria-label="LabelText" title="TitleText" id="test" > aria-describedby="descid"><div id="descid">DescriptionText</div> > > Current results: > > accName: "LabelText" > accDesc: "DescriptionText" > > The title is lost. 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