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Re: non-landmark forms

From: Userite <richard@userite.com>
Date: Sat, 5 Aug 2017 10:19:48 +0100
Message-ID: <4DA701658850405DB50D32B89963385E@RichardPC>
To: "Bryan Garaventa" <bryan.garaventa@levelaccess.com>, <tink@tink.uk>, "Taliesin Smith" <talilief@gmail.com>
Cc: "Tobias Bengfort" <tobias.bengfort@posteo.de>, "WAI IG" <w3c-wai-ig@w3.org>, "ARIA Working Group" <public-aria@w3.org>
My understanding of ARIA is that it **adds** accessibility but it does not replace the existing HTML accessibility features such as <form name-"Contact Form" Action-"xxxxx.....>
One of my screen readers is not good with aria!!!!

Richard Warren

-----Original Message----- 
From: Bryan Garaventa 
Sent: Friday, August 04, 2017 5:05 PM 
To: tink@tink.uk ; Taliesin Smith 
Cc: Tobias Bengfort ; WAI IG ; ARIA Working Group 
Subject: RE: non-landmark forms 

UAIG is the old name for the User Agent Implementation Guide.

I'm confused, because you didn't raise any concerns about this during the discussion when it was proposed last year, and you did participate in the thread.
Reference: http://webaim.org/discussion/mail_thread?thread=7419

This was discussed in the meeting minutes at

I'm CCing the ARIA WG mail list here too because there appears to be some confusion about this that we need to discuss there.

Bryan Garaventa
Accessibility Fellow
Level Access, Inc.
415.624.2709 (o)

-----Original Message-----
From: LĂ©onie Watson [mailto:tink@tink.uk] 
Sent: Thursday, August 03, 2017 8:20 AM
To: Bryan Garaventa <bryan.garaventa@levelaccess.com>; Taliesin Smith <talilief@gmail.com>
Cc: Tobias Bengfort <tobias.bengfort@posteo.de>; WAI IG <w3c-wai-ig@w3.org>
Subject: Re: non-landmark forms

On 02/08/2017 18:44, Bryan Garaventa wrote:
> " It is worth mentioning that using <form aria-label="This form"> or <form aria-labellledby="that"> will not give the form an accessible name either."
> Hi Leonie, I agree this doesn't do so now, but this was decided about six months ago in the UAIG meetings with Rich, Jonie, and Joseph for this to be true.

Thanks Bryan. What is the UA IG?

@LeonieWatson @tink@toot.cafe tink.uk Carpe diem
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