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Re: code samples for extended description

From: Daniel Weck <daniel.weck@gmail.com>
Date: Wed, 13 Jan 2016 05:37:45 +0000
Message-ID: <CA+FkZ9HLywBhbnNYwvRxnZ2XBjmDRkLrcX_UrajXoO28BDKC0g@mail.gmail.com>
To: Jason White <jjwhite@ets.org>
Cc: "Liam R. E. Quin" <liam@w3.org>, "DPUB mailing list (public-digipub-ig@w3.org)" <public-digipub-ig@w3.org>, "Siegman, Tzviya - Hoboken" <tsiegman@wiley.com>, ARIA Working Group <public-aria@w3.org>
Hello Jason, in the suggested usage of a Media Query, would a CSS selector
be used to match all available extended descriptions in the document? If
so, then it would make sense to enable content discovery via a well-defined
"type" or "role" for the details element (see my previous comment regarding
text in the summary element). Daniel
On 13 Jan 2016 2:17 a.m., "White, Jason J" <jjwhite@ets.org> wrote:

>
> > On Jan 12, 2016, at 18:35, Liam R. E. Quin <liam@w3.org> wrote:
> >
> > On Tue, 2016-01-12 at 21:16 +0000, White, Jason J wrote:
> >>> On Jan 12, 2016, at 14:57, Siegman, Tzviya - Hoboken <tsiegman@wile
> >>> y.com> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> One of the issues that we have not fully resolved is that,
> >>> especially when using <details> and <summary>, there is nothing to
> >>> indicate to users that the content is a description.
> >
> > [...]
> >
> >> This can be solved today by providing suitable text in the SUMMARY
> >> element, as your examples demonstrate. I wouldn’t be opposed to a new
> >> ArIA property, but I suspect the need for it is overestimated.
> >
> > I worry first that it's hard enough to get people to add image
> > descriptions; do you think people would actually put appropriate text?
>
> Yes, I think the people who make the effort to use the ALT attribute, then
> to include a detailed description, are exactly the authors who are most
> likely to place appropriate text in the SUMMARY element.
>
> > In addition, how will people who see the images feel about the text?
>
> This depends on whether the media query becomes available, as has been
> proposed, for authors to hide the SUMMARY/DETAILS elements from people who
> do not elect to view extended descriptions.
>
> Finding out to what extent people are in fact annoyed by such additional
> text would be worthy of an empirical investigation.
>
>
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