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Re: Expanding the scope of aria-modal

From: Richard Schwerdtfeger <richschwer@gmail.com>
Date: Thu, 18 Feb 2016 11:13:21 -0600
Cc: Matt King <a11ythinker@gmail.com>, ARIA Working Group <public-aria@w3.org>
Message-Id: <BBFB7965-A5A2-418B-92EF-65A9ED92C87A@gmail.com>
To: Joseph Scheuhammer <clown@alum.mit.edu>
Hi Joseph, 

I believe Dojo uses ARIA alerts for the tooltips - or at least it did. I agree they are not completely modal. 

Rich
 
> On Feb 18, 2016, at 9:24 AM, Joseph Scheuhammer <clown@alum.mit.edu> wrote:
> 
> On 2016-02-17 2:04 PM, Matt King wrote:
>> 
>> 2)Don’t you think that would create mass author confusion if aria-modal was define very differently from how the rest of the UI world uses the term modal?
>> 
> 
> FWIW, dojo toolitp dialogs are an example of a popup dialog that traps the keyboard focus, where TAB keystrokes cycle within the dialog.  However,  tooltip dialogs are not truly modal because if the user clicks outside of the dialog, then the dialog is closed.  A true modal dialog would beep in the case of outside clicks, and require the user to dismiss the dialog by choosing OK, Cancel, Close, or ESC.
> 
> Dojo uses role="alertdialog" here.  The spec for alertdialog suggest that authors SHOULD implement them as modal.  Dojo tooltip dialogs are "modal" with respect to the keyboard, but are not mouse-modal.
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> Also, part of the reason for using alertdialog is to cause an system alert event when the dialog pops open.
> 
> Here is the test page for dojo's tooltip dialog.  I don't vouch for its accessibility.  I might be accessible; it might not be:
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> http://archive.dojotoolkit.org/nightly/dojotoolkit/dijit/tests/test_TooltipDialog.html
> 
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> ;;;;joseph.
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