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RE: APG Landmark Design Pattern Update and Questions related to Banner and Contenting landmarks

From: Schnabel, Stefan <stefan.schnabel@sap.com>
Date: Thu, 11 Feb 2016 16:15:21 +0000
To: Joseph Scheuhammer <clown@alum.mit.edu>, Cynthia Shelly <cyns@microsoft.com>, "tink@tink.uk" <tink@tink.uk>, 'Richard Schwerdtfeger' <richschwer@gmail.com>, "'Gunderson, Jon R'" <jongund@illinois.edu>
CC: 'Matt King' <a11ythinker@gmail.com>, 'James Nurthen' <james.nurthen@oracle.com>, "public-aria@w3.org" <public-aria@w3.org>
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when framesets were not evil, F6 was also used in IE to move focus between frames :)

Personally, I think each User Agent has the freedom to provide keyboard navigation to structural roles. 
Opera is an excellent example.

AT does that mainly in its Virtual Cursor Modes as add. navigation aid  because most User Agents do not offer this out of the box. 

The question is more: which roles are candidates,  who defines what gets the focus afterwards, the banner container, the first element inside and so on ..

All Best,

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From: Joseph Scheuhammer [mailto:clown@alum.mit.edu] 
Sent: Donnerstag, 11. Februar 2016 16:52
To: Cynthia Shelly <cyns@microsoft.com>; tink@tink.uk; 'Richard Schwerdtfeger' <richschwer@gmail.com>; 'Gunderson, Jon R' <jongund@illinois.edu>
Cc: 'Matt King' <a11ythinker@gmail.com>; 'James Nurthen' <james.nurthen@oracle.com>; public-aria@w3.org
Subject: Re: APG Landmark Design Pattern Update and Questions related to Banner and Contenting landmarks

On 2016-02-10 4:50 PM, Cynthia Shelly wrote:
> One approach I’ve used successfully with long-term Windows users is to 
> say that Landmarks are the F6-loop. In classic Windows apps, you can 
> use the F6 key to jump to big “chunks” of an application, like the 
> toolbar, content area, and taskpane (stuff on the right). Landmarks 
> serve the same purpose. Is there something similar on other operating 
> systems?

For Mac OS X, AFAICT, there are separate keystrokes for putting focus on 
major parts of an application:  one for moving focus to the menubar, 
another to move to the toolbar, another to move to the Dock.  There is 
not one keystroke to cycle through them.  There is a keystroke for 
cycling through the windows associated with the active application, and 
another for cycling through running applications.

Within Thunderbird, when composing an email, F6 cycles through the 
address block, the subject edit field, the formatting toolbar, the body 
of the email, and then back to the address block.  But, I think that's a 
feature of Thunderbird, not the Mac OS.


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