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RE: Why is aria-expanded invalid with a checkbox?

From: Bryan Garaventa <bryan.garaventa@ssbbartgroup.com>
Date: Thu, 4 Feb 2016 19:08:04 +0000
To: Joseph Scheuhammer <clown@alum.mit.edu>, Matt King <a11ythinker@gmail.com>, 'Richard Schwerdtfeger' <richschwer@gmail.com>
CC: 'Stefan Schnabel' <stefan.schnabel@sap.com>, 'Birkir Gunnarsson' <birkir.gunnarsson@deque.com>, 'James Nurthen' <james.nurthen@oracle.com>, "public-aria@w3.org" <public-aria@w3.org>
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Actually I have punctuation set to 'none' using JAWS because I don't see the point of hearing every form of punctuation in everything I read, so an ... literally makes no sound at all :) 

This is the danger of relying on punctuation to convey meaning.

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Subject: Re: Why is aria-expanded invalid with a checkbox?

On 2016-02-03 8:54 PM, Matt King wrote:
> And, I would place a large bet that such a user has no idea that "..." means that a dialog will open.

The use of ellipsis has been a part of user interface guidelines for decades.  Here are links from Apple and Microsoft:
https://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/dn742392.aspx#usingellipses

https://developer.apple.com/library/prerelease/mac/documentation/UserExperience/Conceptual/OSXHIGuidelines/TerminologyWording.html#//apple_ref/doc/uid/20000957-CH15-SW3


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