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Engaging stakeholders in the testing process

From: Hadi Rangin <hadir@uw.edu>
Date: Wed, 5 Aug 2020 00:11:49 +0000
To: "public-aria-at@w3.org" <public-aria-at@w3.org>
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Hello everyone,

Thanks to Michael Cooper/Matt King, and Jon Gunderson I have now access to the test harness and got a tour in it.
Earlier today, I looked into the menubar test case and tested the first task with Chrome and Jaws and NVDA. Assuming the menubar test code  has been done correctly, I am not getting the expected outcome. This would mean that either the browser and/or the screen readers are not doing the job properly..

While I have no problem recording my observation, I strongly believe that both screen reader and browser makers should be part of this process to see first-hand how the information is rendered and trace any potential bugs in their system so they can fix the issues as we go. I understand that we want to record our findings but I believe our main goal is to help them to produce the expected output. If it is the main goal, I think we can achieve it a lot sooner and easier if they become part of this testing process.
Maybe I haven't understood the mission of this group but for me it is a typical collaboration that we have with various software companies. I always have them work and engage them in the testing process. It would be great if we can use a few minutes of our next meeting to talk why they are not engaged in this process.

As I was using the test site, I noticed that the Assign me button in the Test Queue page is rendered by Jaws and NVDA as:
"Assign me to the test run function(){var e=this.props,t=e.apgExampleName,n=e.atName,r=e.browserName;return"".concat(t," for ").concat(n," on ").concat(r)}"

unfortunately, My student and I were not able to save my test results. We clicked on it with Enter, space and mouse and I even screamed at it but it didn't help! We took a screenshot from our test result for the case it is needed.

I am also wondering if the team has any objection to switch to a more accessible conferencing tool like Zoom.

Thanks,
Hadi
Received on Wednesday, 5 August 2020 00:30:18 UTC

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