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Re: Updated draft charter for SVG work

From: John Foliot <john.foliot@deque.com>
Date: Thu, 25 May 2017 09:05:52 -0500
Message-ID: <CAKdCpxxqOuNrMXvTF86NOX=76GcYxK7kYLWzxKZNUxOnrQu=+w@mail.gmail.com>
To: Shane McCarron <shane@spec-ops.io>
Cc: Wendy Seltzer <wseltzer@w3.org>, LĂ©onie Watson <tink@tink.uk>, w3c-ac-forum <w3c-ac-forum@w3.org>, Chris Lilley <chris@w3.org>, Liam Quin <liam@w3.org>, W3C WAI Accessible Platform Architectures <public-apa@w3.org>
+1 echoing Shane's concerns.

I am also curious about the "push back from others" regarding joint
deliverables, as currently other accessibility work within the W3C is being
addressed via joint Task-Forces (

Are we now suggesting that this model is no longer desired?

I am also cc'ing the APA on this note, as another potential source of
subject matter expertise that could liaise with the SVG WG - APA has long
advocated embedding accessibility SMEs in other WG's to guide and assist.

However I too believe that the SVG WG should be the "owner" of the SVG AAM.


On Thu, May 25, 2017 at 7:31 AM, Shane McCarron <shane@spec-ops.io> wrote:

> Wendy,
> With regard to the AAM:
> On Wed, May 24, 2017 at 4:25 PM, Wendy Seltzer <wseltzer@w3.org> wrote:
>> >
>> > We'd like to see the SVG Accessibility API Mappings (AAM) specification
>> > back in scope. The HTML AAM spec is the sole responsibility of the
>> > WebPlat WG (along
>> > with the HTML spec), and so keeping the SVG and SVG AAM specs within the
>> > same WG would seem to be a logical thing to do.
>> We've heard others pushing back against joint deliverables, and so her
>> suggest that ARIA take full "ownership" of the AAM spec, and that
>> members participating in SVG are "strongly encouraged to also join the
>> ARIA WG" to help the spec's progress there.
> I am concerned about the inconsistency here.  There will be future AAMs.
> The content area experts are in the relevant working groups.  This could
> not be more true than in the case of SVG.  The ARIA working group has great
> people, and they are experts on the platform AT APIs, but it is unlikely
> they will have the depth to handle the SVG nuances.  If you don't want
> joint deliverables, and I undertstand why, then I would encourage you to
> leave this in scope for the SVG working group.  ARIA can provide a liaison
> if that is what is needed.
> --
> Shane McCarron
> Projects Manager, Spec-Ops

John Foliot
Principal Accessibility Strategist
Deque Systems Inc.

Advancing the mission of digital accessibility and inclusion
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