- From: Owen Ambur <owen.ambur@verizon.net>
- Date: Thu, 20 Oct 2022 01:01:16 +0000 (UTC)
- To: Paola Di Maio <paoladimaio10@gmail.com>, Adeel <aahmad1811@gmail.com>
- Cc: W3C AIKR CG <public-aikr@w3.org>
- Message-ID: <1662744339.544735.1666227676274@mail.yahoo.com>
Adeel's reference to "cognitive architecture" prompted me to discover USC's Institute for Creative Technologies, whose about statement is now available in StratML format at https://stratml.us/drybridge/index.htm#USCICT I look forward to learning more about the kind of "specification" Adeel has in mind ... and how it might relate to the StratML standard, i.e., the ISO 17469-1 specification. BTW, the word "engagement" is not yet referenced in the listing of the types of StratML-enabled tools, apps, and services that may be required to begin to realize the vision of the standard: A worldwide web of intentions, stakeholders, and results. Perhaps it should be explicitly addressed but the assumption has been that people would naturally engage if they were empowered to achieve objectives about which they care. If that were easy to do, why would they not? Simply because they've fallen into the habit of deflecting their personal responsibilities to others -- particularly to politicians -- and then complaining when their expectations are unmet? https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/politics-industry-v-we-people-magic-formula-owen-ambur/ Owen Amburhttps://www.linkedin.com/in/owenambur/ On Wednesday, October 19, 2022 at 09:28:28 AM EDT, Adeel <aahmad1811@gmail.com> wrote: Hello, I would be interested in getting involved in the development and implementation aspect of the cognitive architecture to test the theory in any specific publication as part of what this community releases as output. We can then collaborate further on publications. I think group involvement will likely increase if there is something tangible to look at and reference as a point of testing the theory. And, possibly a drive for specification. I find myself skeptical on paper publications unless there is some artefact associated with it to prove whether it would work. Thanks, Adeel On Wed, 19 Oct 2022 at 03:50, Paola Di Maio <paoladimaio10@gmail.com> wrote: Owenthank you- Regarding your suggestion that what is needed is tools, I am not sure There are plenty of tools for engagement - including your own which may partly fulfil that purpose What we have found over years of community work is that there are individuals and organisationsthat take a lot out from the community - in terms of knowledge, ideas, resources, shared freely and without hidden agendas, for the joy of sharing, and use the same for personal gains (career, funding publications that do not credit the source of what they write etc) without ever giving anything back In my view, what we need more of is honesty and genuine interest in the common goodsomething that is very rare, We keep at it nonetheless, magic still happens between the cracksI am hoping someone earning a salary elsewhere but utterly bored with their life and a few spare cycles may become involved as community engagement manager with this C p On Wed, Oct 19, 2022 at 10:34 AM Owen Ambur <owen.ambur@verizon.net> wrote: Paola, when you're ready to share your proposal, I'll look forward to learning if it lends itself to rendition as a performance plan in StratML Part 2 format. In the meantime, your message prompted me to convert to StratML Part 1 format the about statements for CSCCE & Community Initiatives at https://stratml.us/drybridge/index.htm#CI4 As far as the challenge of engagement is concerned, it seems to me what's needed is pretty clear and relatively simple -- online tools that make it easy for users to contribute to the realization of objectives of particular interest to them: For those who care enough, the first step is to clarify and share their objectives in an open, machine-readable format. The second is to develop services making it relatively easy for users to share and discover objectives of special interest to them. And the third step is to provide services enabling users to contribute to the realization of common and complementary objectives as best their time, resources, and expertise allow. If those steps are well executed, the results (or lack thereof) will speak efficiently and effectively for themselves. Otherwise we can just keep writing scholarly articles and exchanging messages like this. BTW, CSCCE's guidebook could also be rendered as a model performance plan for community managers but I am not yet sufficienty motivated to do that for them. Owen Amburhttps://www.linkedin.com/in/owenambur/ On Tuesday, October 18, 2022 at 11:43:21 AM EDT, Paola Di Maio <paola.dimaio@gmail.com> wrote: Greetings folks This CG has over seventy members, but low member engagement. It would be great if someone would take up the challenge to engage the community base I ll be sharing a proposal soon - waiting for the scholarly publication currently with the publisher before sharing the gist of what I have been working on - but obviously everyone is welcome to come up with suggestions and plans on how to take things forward. Courtesy of the CSCCE, a great resource to stimulate interest in the role (volunteer) and recommended reading for everyone interested in community engagement The CSCCE Skills Wheel – Five core competencies and 45 skills to describe the role of the community engagement manager in STEM.https://zenodo.org/record/4437294#.Y07FXExBzrdThis guidebook is intended to be a brief, practical introduction to scientific community manager roles and provide a starting point for discussing common questions about them. Pdm
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