- From: Owen Ambur <Owen.Ambur@verizon.net>
- Date: Sun, 31 May 2020 12:57:19 -0400
- To: Sebastian Samaruga <ssamarug@gmail.com>
- Cc: W3C AIKR CG <public-aikr@w3.org>, Chris Fox <chris@chriscfox.com>, "Jorge Sanchez." <jorgesr@zoho.eu>
- Message-ID: <b2043264-b5bc-3bdc-a135-0f85bd3f9c3a@verizon.net>
Sebastian, yes, semantic extraction tools could usefully be applied to
the content of the elements of the StratML standard that contain text
comprising more than a single word.
Moreover, even for those elements containing just a single word, such
tools can be applied to compare the meaning of those words (to those
using them) as expanded in the <Description> elements associated with
the words (names ascribed to concepts). Elements having both <Name>s and
<Description>s include: <Goal
<https://stratml.us/references/urn_ISO_std_iso_17469_tech_xsd_stratml_core.html#Goal>>,
<Objective
<https://stratml.us/references/urn_ISO_std_iso_17469_tech_xsd_stratml_core.html#Objective>>,
<Stakeholder
<https://stratml.us/references/urn_ISO_std_iso_17469_tech_xsd_stratml_core.html#Stakeholder>>,
and <Value
<https://stratml.us/references/urn_ISO_std_iso_17469_tech_xsd_stratml_core.html#Value>>.
However, before focusing too much on such tools, first it would be good
to enable selective querying of those elements based simply upon the
<Name>s ascribed to them. For example, as shown in this word cloud
<https://stratml.us/references/WordCloudDemo.pdf>, Education is the most
commonly named goal. Faceted query services enabling the combination of
element names could be particularly useful, e.g., goal & objective names
combined with stakeholder group names.
When such queries are conducted, the results lists should point directly
to the queried elements in the context of the documents in which they
occur -- not to the entire document/page (as the Web search engines to)
thereby requiring users either to scan the entire document or conduct
another word-find search within it. Since GUIDs are associated with each
element, they can be directly referenced like this
<https://stratml.us/carmel/iso/UIMAwStyle.xml#_42c287f2-1adc-11e7-ade9-4a8f6551e223>.
(Since GUIDs are plain text, they can also be indexed by the Web search
engines, as Google does /inconsistently/, e.g., with respect to these
plans
<https://www.google.com/search?q=_fc2d8890-ba77-4c51-bbad-1cc10871c14e&rlz=1C1CHBF_enUS868US868&oq=_fc2d8890-ba77-4c51-bbad-1cc10871c14e&aqs=chrome..69i57&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8>
issued by the U.S. Office of Management & Budget.)
As time permits, I may convert Apache Stanbol's "welcome" statement
<http://stanbol.apache.org/> to StratML format. It would be great if
the Apache folks were to begin to publish information about their
projects in an open, standard, machine-readable format like StratML. In
the meantime, two Apache project plans are in the StratML collection at
https://stratml.us/drybridge/index.htm#ASF2 See also
https://aboutthem.info/ and StratML use case Goal 19: Projects &
Programs
<https://stratml.us/carmel/iso/UC4SwStyle.xml#_8833b55a-14c4-11e6-ac93-bf1cf9713b8c>.
BTW, the latest addition to the StratML collection is the IEEE's report
on ETHICALLY ALIGNED DESIGN: A Vision for Prioritizing Human Well-being
with Autonomous and Intelligent Systems, at
https://stratml.us/drybridge/index.htm#EAD
Oftentimes we human beings make things more complicated than necessary.
Generally speaking, we need to learn to walk before we can learn to
run. It is also good to refrain from expecting others to do that which
we can do for ourselves. For example, we can think more clearly about
what we're trying to accomplish and then document it in an open,
standard, machine-readable format rather than expecting AI agents to do
that for us. When we do, AI can add higher-level value, including by
helping us discover relationships and work together more efficiently and
effectively.
I look forward to learning if you and I may have the opportunity to
collaborate in pursuit of our common and complementary interests. For
example, do you see any prospects that an Apache tool(s) might be
applied to render the descriptions of each Apache's 350+ projects
<https://projects.apache.org/> in StratML format? Short of that, I
trust that Chris and Jorge would love to see Apache project sponsors use
their StratML applications to do that manually.
An invitation to connect on LinkedIn will be forthcoming.
Owen
On 5/30/2020 7:22 PM, Sebastian Samaruga wrote:
> Maybe the parsers that you refer are tools enabling the extraction of
> semantic statements from textual description portions of strategy
> documents. Not to confuse with an XML parser (strategy encoding /
> schema format).
>
> For this approach I can mention Apache Stanbol (stanbol.apache.org
> <http://stanbol.apache.org>), Apache Tika and Apache Any23 among others.
>
> It is also possible to render those kind of parsers needless if
> strategy documents where allowed to have microformats / semantic / LOD
> annotations in them (a la www.schema.org <http://www.schema.org>).
> Otherwise I'm currently finding hard to see where strategies and
> semantics fits, beyond a serialization format and without the benefits
> of LOD / Alignments Augmentations.
>
> I'm really enthusiastic to find out more about this subjects. Some
> examples and learning resources will be greatly appreciated. Thanks,
>
> Sebastián.
> http://sebxama.blogspot.com
>
> On Thu, May 7, 2020, 9:05 PM Paola Di Maio <paoladimaio10@gmail.com
> <mailto:paoladimaio10@gmail.com>> wrote:
>
> Thank you Owen
> yes I understand that query interface may not be part of Stratml
> it is however what makes it useful/usable
>
> In principle anyone can build structured documents or
> performance schemas
> without using a standard (not trying to diminish the value of
> standards at all)
> and use a variety of methods to parse/query
>
> Since Straml is offered, its going to be nice to see/demo its
> application facilitated by an online wizard
> in addition to Stratnav. I wonder if StratNav may end up
> incorporating the wizard
>
> G
>
> On Fri, May 8, 2020 at 1:29 AM Owen Ambur <Owen.Ambur@verizon.net
> <mailto:Owen.Ambur@verizon.net>> wrote:
>
> Here are the points I'd add to this exchange:
>
> 1. Presentation/styling is not part of the StratML standard
> itself. The focus of the standard is the /substance/ and
> /structure/ of the content of strategic and performance
> plans and reports. It is up to tool, app, and service
> developers to leverage the semantics and structure of the
> schema to enable discovery and presentation in ways most
> useful to their stakeholders.
> 2. The <PerformanceIndictor> elements of the StratML schema
> /enable/ the capture and presentation of the kind of
> performance progress data you reference in your message.
> While beauty is in the eye of the beholder, Chris has
> demonstrated the basic capability to present such
> quantitative performance indicator data in his app. I
> look forward to seeing how it presents longer time-series
> of such data. It will also be interesting to see how
> /qualitative/ performance indicators can most usefully be
> presented, e.g., by red, yellow, green markings.
> 3. The instruction on how to enhance query parsing at
> https://www.searchtechnologies.com/search-query-parsing is
> aimed at improving full-text query capabilities, which by
> definition do /not/ take advantage of the structure and
> semantics of schemas, like the StratML schemas.
> Eventually, query services that do so will enable not
> merely discovery of entire documents in which queried
> terms appear but more explicit reference (direct links) to
> the elements in which those terms occur, like this
> <https://stratml.us/carmel/iso/part2/AIKRCGforComment.xml#_5d94e454-83e9-11e8-8f10-5ac7e53a5ccc>.
> 4. I defer to Carl to share the details for our next
> televideo conference on Tuesday, May 12, when we will
> continue fleshing our our draft plan
> <https://www.stratnavapp.com/StratML/Part1/413d648b-bd36-418d-af74-e15b0cd8281d/Styled>
> in Chris' StratNavApp.
>
> Owen
>
> On 5/7/2020 4:24 AM, Chris Fox wrote:
>> Hi Paola,
>>
>> Yes, StratNavApp.com does what you suggest, and is able to
>> represent that in StratML. The tweaking that we talked about
>> is purely presentation, rather than functional.
>>
>> Kind Regards,
>> Chris
>>
>> On Thu, 7 May 2020 at 05:06, Paola Di Maio
>> <paoladimaio10@gmail.com <mailto:paoladimaio10@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>
>> Owen
>> thanks- Jorge answered the question already (what I
>> dont know yet if there is a wizard online installed
>> somewhere already on the web, I am not likely to install
>> one myself)
>>
>> Let me be more precise when I think parser in relation to
>> strtml I mean a query parser
>> https://www.searchtechnologies.com/search-query-parsing
>> a parser that enables me to query a st of
>> strtml documents according to different variables
>>
>> I may be able to attend the meeting next week.?
>> Pls enter details here!
>> https://www.w3.org/community/aikr/wiki/index.php?title=Main_Page&action=edit§ion=5
>>
>>
>> Stratnav as I understand it so far has a slight
>> modelling issue. the way I see it
>> - that can be easily fixed since Chris says he is
>> thinking of tweaking things
>>
>> for each performance plan, the user should input a set of
>> desired target
>> (say for this year my performance should be publish 4 papers)
>>
>> then, throughout the period of the plan. the user
>> would be able to input the targets one by one as they are met
>> (I should be able to input the papers one by one as they
>> are published)
>>
>> thus. the performance function/graph should show
>> incremental progress
>>
>> I am not sure stratnav does that yet, but that would be
>> an essential functionality to have
>> (to show the incremental progress towards a
>> perfomance plan by tracking the targets)
>>
>> On Thu, May 7, 2020 at 10:28 AM Owen Ambur
>> <Owen.Ambur@verizon.net <mailto:Owen.Ambur@verizon.net>>
>> wrote:
>>
>> Paola, I'm not sure I understand exactly what you are
>> saying.
>>
>> By generic "parser" I'm guessing that you mean an
>> application that can select out goal and objective
>> statements from unstructured ("natural language")
>> text and render them in StratML format. If so, I am
>> unaware of any tool that can do that.
>>
>> However, Pradeep Jain and his colleagues at Ictect
>> have previously developed a template for use in MS
>> Word, from which their patented technology rendered
>> StratML. If sufficient demand were to arise from MS
>> Word users, I trust they'd be happy to update the
>> template to work with the latest version of Word.
>> https://stratml.us/index.htm#Ictect
>>
>> On the other hand, if by "produce an output based on
>> a StratML URL input," you mean exactly what those
>> words say, Alain Barbet's XForm for StratML Part 2
>> can do that, at
>> http://waterland.freeboxos.fr:8009/Part2Form.xml You
>> can try it with this URL, if you'd like:
>> https://stratml.us/carmel/iso/AIKRCGwStyle.xml Or you
>> can just click on this link
>> <http://stratml.us/forms/walt5.pl?url=http://stratml.us/carmel/iso/AIKRCG.xml>
>> and the file will automatically open in the XForm for
>> editing.
>>
>> I'm hoping Jorge's "wizard" version of the StratML
>> forms will soon have similar capabilities.
>>
>> In any event, the advantage of using either his
>> StratML application or Chris's StratNavApp is that
>> they are backed by databases, whereas files created
>> in the XForms must be saved locally and then manually
>> posted somewhere on the Web, e.g., via the hypertext
>> index I have been maintaining at
>> https://stratml.us/drybridge/index.htm The trade-off
>> is that giving users rights to write to the database
>> means Chris and Jorge also need to manage UIDs &
>> passwords, overhead I have not wanted to take on myself.
>>
>> Chris' app also has many other features to help
>> organizations and groups craft better plans,
>> including the capability to work collaboratively
>> together to edit and comment on them. The group that
>> Carl has been leading began doing that last week and
>> plans to continue fleshing out our plan during our
>> televideo conference next Tuesday. We moved the time
>> up an hour to accommodate your schedule and I hope
>> you'll be able to join us.
>>
>> I'm looking forward to the day that a sufficient
>> number of dynamic StratML indices are
>> semi-automatically maintained by others on the Web so
>> that I can stop manually maintaining my static
>> hypertext listing. Ideally, those repositories would
>> not only provide the query capabilities outlined here
>> <https://stratml.us/carmel/iso/SMLTASwStyle.xml#_15446932-208f-11e6-a80e-7333871eb3cb>
>> but also have the capability to notify each other of
>> additions to the collection.
>>
>> If the StratML standard were to begin to attract
>> sufficient usage, I trust that Andre Cusson may wish
>> to re-initiate work on his StratML portal
>> <https://stratml.us/index.htm#Cusson>, that the folks
>> at Ximdex may want to reengineer their StratML query
>> service <http://space.ximdex.net/stratml-portal/> to
>> take advantage of the structure and semantics of the
>> schema, and that Pooyan Zamanian may wish to elevate
>> the visibility of his StratML portal
>> <https://stratml.us/index.htm#Pooyan> (in Farsi).
>> Perhaps Esri might also be enticed to re-initiate
>> their StratML portal
>> <https://stratml.us/index.htm#ESRI> to provide
>> geospatial referencing services.
>>
>> In large measure, that depends upon whether potential
>> users recognize the value and importance of using the
>> StratML standard but, of course, that is a
>> chicken-or-egg situation. As Steve Jobs famously
>> said, it's not the role of customers to know what
>> they want; it is the role of entrepreneurs to show
>> them... and, after seeing it (like the iPhone) they
>> quickly come to feel they simply must have it.
>> That's why I'm so anxious to see what Jorge and other
>> developers can do.
>>
>> I hope this helps. If you have further questions,
>> just let us know. Hope to see and hear from you
>> during our televideo conference on Tuesday. I trust
>> Carl will be sending out a reminder with the
>> connection info.
>>
>> Owen
>>
>> On 5/6/2020 8:14 PM, Paola Di Maio wrote:
>>> Thanks
>>> Sounds great
>>> If you could circulate a web based version of parser
>>> that can produce an output based on stratml ulr inputs
>>> we can play around with it and let you know-
>>> I am not likely to download a parser to my machine
>>> that would not work for me
>>> Does it make sense?
>>> thank you
>>> P
>>>
>>>
>>> On Thu, May 7, 2020 at 8:04 AM Jorge Sanchez
>>> <jorge@vionta.net <mailto:jorge@vionta.net>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi Paola,
>>>
>>> From what I remember you can use antlr.org
>>> <https://www.antlr.org> to define and interpret
>>> grammars. Xml would be an easy task for Antlr,
>>> but no need to do it as there are a myriad of
>>> pre-built tools that we can use for that.
>>>
>>> /"is the wizard you are working on going to have
>>> an online interface?"/
>>>
>>> //
>>>
>>> //
>>>
>>> Yes, it definitely has. Multilingual (English
>>> and Spanish by now).The form is provided in two
>>> ways:
>>> - Anyone can download and use the client
>>> side form. It can be deployed in a HTTP server
>>> and integrated with a regular HTTP REST
>>> endpoint. Config can be adjusted using the
>>> config.xml file.
>>> - Anyone can deploy the JEE application on
>>> a compliant Java/Jakarta EE server. It would
>>> require to adjust the user permissions or just
>>> disable them (check the role names on the web.xml).
>>>
>>> Any feedback would be great. Although at this
>>> point I expect that anyone that use it would
>>> require some level of assistance. The main goal
>>> is that any organization can use it to build
>>> their internal plan repository.
>>>
>>> Regards.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> ---- On Tue, 05 May 2020 13:33:25 +0200 *Paola
>>> Di Maio <paoladimaio10@gmail.com
>>> <mailto:paoladimaio10@gmail.com>>* wrote ----
>>>
>>> Thank you
>>> you say that antrl doesnt work with xml?
>>>
>>> is the wizard you are working on going to
>>> have an online interface?
>>> something we can enter the urls to be parsed
>>> with pointers to specific fields we want
>>> to query
>>> would you like user input /requirements for
>>> the wizard?
>>>
>>>
>>> On Tue, May 5, 2020 at 7:29 PM Jorge Sanchez
>>> <jorge@vionta.net <mailto:jorge@vionta.net>>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> Hi Paola,
>>>
>>> Antlr is a well known tool for grammars.
>>> Anyway at StratML we rely on Xml schemas
>>> to describe and analyze the domain.
>>>
>>> The original form is at Owens github
>>> (also on the stratml.us
>>> <http://stratml.us> site):
>>>
>>> https://github.com/OwenAmbur/StratML
>>>
>>> You can find also the latest status of
>>> the wizard form at Vionta site
>>> (standalone client side):
>>>
>>> https://github.com/vionta/StratML/tree/master/forms/wizard
>>>
>>> Or the full web application
>>> (Java/Jakarta + maven) with the wizard
>>> form at:
>>>
>>> https://github.com/vionta/stratml-web-app
>>>
>>> Kind Regards.
>>>
>>>
>>> ---- On Mon, 04 May 2020 14:38:10 +0200
>>> *Paola Di Maio <paola.dimaio@gmail.com
>>> <mailto:paola.dimaio@gmail.com>>* wrote ----
>>>
>>> There are a number of open source
>>> tools that ( they say) should be
>>> able to parse structured text
>>> I found antlr https://www.antlr.org/
>>> do people know of others?
>>>
>>> I wonder if we should/could evaluate
>>> existing tools to see if they can do
>>> the job befor building an ad hoc one
>>>
>>> In addition, I t would be
>>> interesting to see the approach for
>>> jorge's parsers for stratml
>>> is this work being done somewhere
>>> visible like githug or is it
>>> happening offline?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
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>> <https://www.stratnavapp.com/>, the online collaborative tool
>> for strategy development and execution?
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