- From: carl mattocks <carlmattocks@gmail.com>
- Date: Wed, 27 May 2020 09:34:56 -0400
- To: Chris Fox <chris@chriscfox.com>, W3C AIKR CG <public-aikr@w3.org>
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Chris: To avoid having competing AIKRCG plan for member proposals/ experiments / etc can you confirm that the link below can be used for that purpose (with permissions set) For reference here is a link to a StratML/StratNavApp.com project for the AIKR CG itself. https://www.stratnavapp.com/Projects/b3dff87d-bb39-4ef3-b513-c5183d5c8e7c <https://chfbdgg.r.af.d.sendibt2.com/tr/cl/Vqh0mZoO03BZrttDcE0vNgOoMq2c3OotT9WOXeO29JYv9ml3tmXo5JYSGjH-GW-c-N9KD3-gLBor_H00K7hVwq17yXatFZLWsSy6yQvDcx2x4QGZ7TI8J5Z9WkQpfKEh9DvVon-GGmljUej3lqn42BBmH1yu9-ukYtr8hciskC5ATDS-ZlRqqZqbWSCzSfH-sPiHc9Sj2MhR617Kaz4nVDXyhY7ykaH3YppQeoz_O8LAmyV0fIRwn5H2712WU9BJ> I contrast that against other plans, which are intended for use by specific StratML subgroup experiments. cheers Carl It was a pleasure to clarify On Wed, May 27, 2020 at 9:26 AM Chris Fox <chris@chriscfox.com> wrote: > What will the new strategy cover, Carl? That might help people decide if > they want access or not... > > On Wed, 27 May 2020 at 14:23, carl mattocks <carlmattocks@gmail.com> > wrote: > >> please note - >> To support the naturally evolving list of AIKR planned presentations / >> talks/ experiments another strategy will be published via the app. This >> will be separate from the current one focused on demonstrating how an AI >> Strategist uses StraMl Vocabulary and Template to detail planning & >> performance for aa AIKR powered business capability >> >> If you required edit permissions please respond to this email. >> cheers >> >> Carl >> >> >> >> It was a pleasure to clarify >> >> >> On Tue, May 26, 2020 at 9:51 PM Paola Di Maio <paola.dimaio@gmail.com> >> wrote: >> >>> Thank you Carl >>> >>> sorry I did not make it last night but will be refining my entries in >>> the stratnav app to reflect what I am working on now >>> Have a couple of virtual talks and working on papers - and shall be >>> working on those >>> >>> perhaps you can enter also in the plan your proposed goals and actions >>> >>> Look forward to be reading more about krid and when it is mature enough >>> maybe you can give a presentation/ >>> make some slides to prep your krid spec draft >>> >>> >>> pdm >>> >>> On Tue, May 26, 2020 at 10:35 PM carl mattocks <carlmattocks@gmail.com> >>> wrote: >>> >>>> >>>> >>>> a KRID focused goal is Create a Core Ontology that clarifies >>>> role/use/properties of KRID within context of 'goals' mapped in StratMl >>>> >>>> Towards that goal please peruse : >>>> Core Software Ontology Core Ontology of Software Components Core >>>> Ontology of Services which references Ontology of Goals >>>> http://km.aifb.kit.edu/sites/cos/ >>>> >>>> An Ontology to aid the Goal-oriented Requirements Elicitation and >>>> Specification for Self-Adaptive Systems >>>> >>>> https://www.researchgate.net/publication/221270123_GOORE_Goal-Oriented_and_Ontology_Driven_Requirements_Elicitation_Method >>>> >>>> Carl >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> It was a pleasure to clarify >>>> >>>> >>>> On Mon, May 18, 2020 at 7:52 PM Paola Di Maio <paoladimaio10@gmail.com> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Thanks Carl for clarifying >>>>> >>>>> what about setting the goal for clarifying /sketch out KRID so that we >>>>> can have a discussion >>>>> I plan to put my hands on the plan in the stratnavapp soon >>>>> P >>>>> >>>>> On Thu, May 14, 2020 at 10:09 PM carl mattocks <carlmattocks@gmail.com> >>>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Towards adopting stratml for the AIKRCG 'strategy' ... >>>>>> Given we are AIKR ... we understand that Kairos signifies a proper >>>>>> or opportune time for action and our usage of StratMl to EXPLAIN >>>>>> makes us interested in Knowledge-directed Artificial Intelligence >>>>>> Reasoning Over Schemas (KAIROS) DARPA-SN-19-19 . >>>>>> >>>>>> Our discussions have focused on: >>>>>> StratML is our Schema start point for reasoning, as in, the >>>>>> performance of AIKR inference >>>>>> <https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/inferences>s is scoped / >>>>>> weighed by the declared strategy. >>>>>> AIKR reasoning uses KRID identifiers and data >>>>>> (aka metadata) properties, such as KR TYPE. >>>>>> KR Types include Declarative and Imperative (aka procedural). >>>>>> >>>>>> Carl >>>>>> >>>>>> Chair AIKRCG >>>>>> It was a pleasure to clarify >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On Thu, May 14, 2020 at 7:37 AM Paola Di Maio <paola.dimaio@gmail.com> >>>>>> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> It is under Owen and Chris's leadership that we are making some >>>>>>> progress towards >>>>>>> adopting stratml for the AIKRCG 'strategy' >>>>>>> >>>>>>> In sum. what are we doing/planning to do as a group is going to be >>>>>>> documented in the plan. and although we are still working things out, as >>>>>>> we do have moments of brilliance and outbursts of productivity we can put >>>>>>> them down in this stratml plan on the stratnav app so that they ll be a >>>>>>> record of that. should be useful. I apologize again for being very tired >>>>>>> but 9 pm is very late for me. especially when I have had a full day incl >>>>>>> other calls etc- >>>>>>> >>>>>>> a few notes below >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> the plan being developed here >>>>>>>> <https://www.stratnavapp.com/StratML/Part1/413d648b-bd36-418d-af74-e15b0cd8281d/Styled>. >>>>>>>> if anyone is inspired to chip in pls ask editing pass to Chris on this list >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> With reference to our Frameworks goal >>>>>>>> <https://www.stratnavapp.com/StratML/Part1/413d648b-bd36-418d-af74-e15b0cd8281d/Styled#Goal_f1a62bb5-9910-4052-946a-344c0e22272f>, >>>>>>>> I will endeavor to render in StratML Part 2 format any frameworks that may >>>>>>>> be discovered and available on the Web. Please apprise me of any of which >>>>>>>> you are aware. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> To clarify - Jorge aske whether we are using any framework of >>>>>>> reference for our work. which loosely attempts to study explainability for >>>>>>> machine learning. That particular goal for our CG may need to be refined a >>>>>>> little - I dont think a frameworks exists as such (strategies, methods) but >>>>>>> there is interesting work being done, which I dont think is a framework >>>>>>> yet. rather a compilation of possible techniques. the effectiveness of >>>>>>> which may need to be evaluated in the field. So to answer the question, >>>>>>> methods to address explainability of ML exist but >>>>>>> a) I dont think are frameworks/strategies - this may be our goal? to >>>>>>> gather what is in the field and make a framework? >>>>>>> b) evaluation criteria for the effectiveness of these methods may >>>>>>> not yet be studied, again >>>>>>> could this be our work? I am doing some research in this direction >>>>>>> but not yet conclusive >>>>>>> I volunteered to take up this task and shall soon update the plan >>>>>>> with some links but I am putting together a presentation- >>>>>>> anyone want to contribute? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> The caveat is that statistical pronability and non parametric >>>>>>> methods in ML are unpredictable by definition >>>>>>> https://machinelearningmastery.com/uncertainty-in-machine-learning/ >>>>>>> >>>>>>> http://mlg.eng.cam.ac.uk/zoubin/talks/mit12csail.pdf >>>>>>> >>>>>>> (this is not my field at all, does anyone care to expand?) >>>>>>> so I am not sure how to address this unpredictability other than >>>>>>> with the question >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Can we use known symbolilc KR to explain ML? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> In the meantime, this Google site-specific query >>>>>>>> <https://www.google.com/search?ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&q=AI+framework&btnG=Google+Search&domains=stratml.us&sitesearch=stratml.us> >>>>>>>> of the StratML collection turns up about 29 hits on the terms "AI >>>>>>>> framework". Here's >>>>>>>> <https://www.modzy.com/platform-and-marketplace/> the top paid >>>>>>>> ad-placed hit (not yet in the StratML collection but soon to be). >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> thanks - how do we query for ML explainability framework (a bit >>>>>>> more precise semantically in relation to what we are doing here) >>>>>>> >>>>>>> KRID - Carl is putting forward a category/concept/type whereby KR >>>>>>> is identified >>>>>>> so KRID = some value to describe KR identity >>>>>>> Carl started by suggesting the top level distinction for this >>>>>>> concept would be >>>>>>> declarative/procedural >>>>>>> i do not yet have an opinion about this, but would request Carl to >>>>>>> start sketching out >>>>>>> the taxonomy for KRID as he envisions it. so that we can have a >>>>>>> discussion about it >>>>>>> One considertation is: to what extent is declarative/procedural >>>>>>> knowledge relevant to support ML? or is KRID intended for AI in general >>>>>>> (not ML) . Carl perhaps you should create this as a goal for yourself.Also >>>>>>> could you clarify the relation of KRID to KAIROS? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Thanks! >>>>>>> >>>>>>> PDM >>>>>>> >>>>>> > > -- > Chris Fox > Chris C Fox Consulting Limited > chris@chriscfox.com > +44 77 860 21712 > <http://www.chriscfox.com> [image: https://calendar.x.ai/chriscfox] > <https://calendar.x.ai/chriscfox> > <http://www.linkedin.com/in/chriscfox> > <http://www.twitter.com/chriscfox> > <http://www.facebook.com/pages/StrategicCoffee/102920468071> > <https://join.skype.com/invite/oxuJFtEDlgQw> > Have you tried https://www.StratNavApp.com <https://www.stratnavapp.com/>, > the online collaborative tool for strategy development and execution? > > Chris C Fox Consulting Limited is registered in England and Wales as a > Private Limited Company: Company Number 6939359. Registered Office: Unit 4 > Vista Place, Coy Pond Business Park, Ingworth Road, Poole BH12 1JY >
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