Re: they are fooling everybody

Milton,
I disagree with the overall mumbling and with the fact that he's using ML
to obfuscate
KR, and that he plucks trendy arguments to make what he says sound
interesting and to make it resonate
The ML community creates a lot of noise which distracts from the real issues

But I would be interested to hear from others, does anybody else gets a
sense there's something wrong going on?

Ravi-  I disagree that there is no science on youtube- there's some great
science I think
however it also amplifies to propagade scientific fraud and the use of
science as propaganda



On Tue, Jun 30, 2020 at 12:02 AM ProjectParadigm-ICT-Program <
metadataportals@yahoo.com> wrote:

> CORRECTED TEXT:
>
> Dear Paola,
>
> In the book "Architects of Intelligence. The truth about AI from the
> people building it" by Martin Ford, published by Packt Publsihing the book
> kicks off with Bengio as one of the experts interviewed.
>
> Could you specify exactly what you disagree upon? Mind you, most AI
> experts are deep learning proponents.
>
> If you want to make a case against their widely accepted viewpoints about
> AI and the perceived deep learning panacea you will have to point out the
> ambiguity in machine learning and thus deep learning caused by the gap
> between natural language processing and formal knowledge representation for
> one and the bias caused by sensory and perceptual issues.
>
> What is brewing here is a battle between computer scientists and one group
> of computational neuro (cognition) scientists on one hand and philosophers,
> linguists, psychologists and the other neuro scientists on the other hand
> with logicians and mathematicians as reluctant and/or unwilling arbiters in
> the sidelines.
>
> Getting from AI to AGI requires incorporating non-rational, emotional and
> intuitive processing and acknowledging that there are 14 types of knowledge
> including declarative or procedural.
>
> IMHO if you want to pick a fight, make sure you know who and what you are
> dealing with.
>
>
> Milton Ponson
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> mathematics, advanced modeling, software and standards development
>
>
> On Monday, June 29, 2020, 1:00:38 AM ADT, Paola Di Maio <
> paola.dimaio@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
> Not only they dont understand what they are talking about, they are also
> made to look as leaders!!  They are making people applaud (booooo!!)
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yMoQV1-pFAk
>
> a lot of BS going on and being passed as science but folks have to sit
> down and listen
> If they stand up and speak up about the fallacies, they are blacklisted
> from academia
>
> on my oh my,
>
> PDM
>
>
>