- From: Paola Di Maio <paoladimaio10@gmail.com>
- Date: Wed, 10 Jun 2020 19:10:44 +0800
- To: W3C AIKR CG <public-aikr@w3.org>, Chris Fox <chris@chriscfox.com>
- Message-ID: <CAMXe=SrWOzA2siAmLfyM+o6-D4qid-myTL8BbT=ciNCYe4wCNw@mail.gmail.com>
Chris thanks - I reply on the list as this is relevant for the whole group I started this group with the focus on AIKR because I come from a kbs (knowledge based systems) background where symbolic AI systems development is heavily driven by knowledge modelling/engineering/representation After some years doing other work and going back to work in colleges where they teach AI I became petrified when I saw scores of students learning ML (machine learning) without even knowing of KR, ro using KR without qualification, possibly incorrectly, thus failing the purpose of KR . or only understanding the bit of KR that relates the particular technique being taught rather than the whole field of KR with all its facets The current AI risks are attributable to poor KR, imho The main argument in defense of the state of things is that M learning is largely non symbolic, therefore being KR mostly related to symbolic AI, KR as we know it is not so relevant to ML But neurosymbolic KR/AI is overlooked and not taught, this is something I am working on (to fill the gaps in educational curricula) I also saw some horrific things being done in ML that could be resolved if KR was properlty carried out The AI KR strategy is how to use KR to reduce the known risks associated with ML (lack of reliability/auditability/transparency of algorithms etc) the AI strategy/ist role plan is therefore a bit outside the original scope of work here (a bit too generalised) but if it matters to you guys, I have no objection maybe we should work in parallel on the AI KR strategist plan as well, which is more focussed does it make sense? any more questions? pdm On Wed, Jun 10, 2020 at 6:52 PM Chris Fox <chris@chriscfox.com> wrote: > > > On Wed, 10 Jun 2020 at 10:59, Paola Di Maio <paoladimaio10@gmail.com> > wrote: > >> >> >> On Wed, Jun 10, 2020 at 4:12 PM Chris Fox <chris@chriscfox.com> wrote: >> >>> I agree that we should stick to Goals and Objectives. >>> >> >> so would the goals for th ai strategy be......... what isare the goal/s >> of the strategy? >> > > Not "the goals of *the strategy*" but rather "the goals of *an AI > strategist*". > > On a related note, we've previously talked around in circles about "AI > strategist" or "AI KR strategist". I understand the former and think that's > is what we are talking about. I am not sure I understand the latter. > > >> >>> If you get into system development life cycles you will open up the >>> debate between various types of waterfall and agile methodologies. That is >>> a whole different can of worms and not necessary for our purposes. >>> >>> so should we set aside the whole requirements and focus on what are the >> goals of the >> ai strategy/ist which are not already covered by ai systems development >> and maybe define how the ai strategy interfaces with the >> requirements/specification which is what the sys dev plan would be >> for >> > > I think we should focus on the specific goals of an AI Strategist. > Ideally, they should not overlap with those of an AI systems developer. If > they do, then I suspect we have failed to achieve separation of > responsibilities. That does not mean that one person cannot fulfil both > roles. But the roles should still remain separate. > > -- > Chris Fox > Chris C Fox Consulting Limited > chris@chriscfox.com > +44 77 860 21712 > <http://www.chriscfox.com> [image: https://calendar.x.ai/chriscfox] > <https://calendar.x.ai/chriscfox> > <http://www.linkedin.com/in/chriscfox> > <http://www.twitter.com/chriscfox> > <http://www.facebook.com/pages/StrategicCoffee/102920468071> > <https://join.skype.com/invite/oxuJFtEDlgQw> > Have you tried https://www.StratNavApp.com <https://www.stratnavapp.com/>, > the online collaborative tool for strategy development and execution? > > Chris C Fox Consulting Limited is registered in England and Wales as a > Private Limited Company: Company Number 6939359. Registered Office: Unit 4 > Vista Place, Coy Pond Business Park, Ingworth Road, Poole BH12 1JY >
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