- From: Paola Di Maio <paola.dimaio@gmail.com>
- Date: Sun, 2 Feb 2020 08:50:39 +0800
- To: carl mattocks <carlmattocks@gmail.com>
- Cc: W3C AIKR CG <public-aikr@w3.org>
- Message-ID: <CAMXe=So6f38CB1oPs8607XuoHaX-dBCc_jC-+5TrYLPNkXWdyg@mail.gmail.com>
Thank you Carl I would be very surprised if someone objected I wonder if it would help to have a justification/explanation of why a certain resource is added/suggested for addition (for those of use who may not be familiar with it) how does resource relate to AIKR, how does it contribute to our goals etc P On Sun, Feb 2, 2020 at 7:18 AM carl mattocks <carlmattocks@gmail.com> wrote: > Members: > > is anyone against having a curated list of normative/non-normative > reference material that includes the paper (which speaks to a CL extension > of RULEML) > > http://ruleml.org/papers/AthanDissertation/AthanGISDissertation2011.pdf > XCLX: An XML-based Common Logic eXtension with Embedded Geography Markup > Language > > > thanks > > Carl Mattocks > co-Chair AIKR CG > > > On Wed, Jan 8, 2020 at 9:31 AM carl mattocks <carlmattocks@gmail.com> > wrote: > >> All AIKR : >> Regarding CL - as a candidate for our curated list of >> normative/non-normative reference material - please review the paper that >> speaks to a CL extension of RULEML >> >> http://ruleml.org/papers/AthanDissertation/AthanGISDissertation2011.pdf >> XCLX: An XML-based Common Logic eXtension with Embedded Geography Markup >> Language >> >> I will send a follow on 'vote please' email after January 31 >> >> thanks for your participation >> >> Carl Mattocks >> CarlMattocks@WellnessIntelligence.Institute >> >> It was a pleasure to clarify >> >> >> On Tue, Jan 7, 2020 at 4:39 PM ProjectParadigm-ICT-Program < >> metadataportals@yahoo.com> wrote: >> >>> Can I suggest we stick to StratML and CL which is the basis for >>> conceptual structures (see http://www.jfsowa.com/pubs/cg4cs.pdf)? >>> >>> This way we know we are applying standards in the to be developed >>> general common frame of reference for AI and KR. >>> >>> Will get back on this and my mission statemennt. >>> >>> Milton Ponson >>> GSM: +297 747 8280 >>> PO Box 1154, Oranjestad >>> Aruba, Dutch Caribbean >>> Project Paradigm: Bringing the ICT tools for sustainable development to >>> all stakeholders worldwide through collaborative research on applied >>> mathematics, advanced modeling, software and standards development >>> >>> >>> On Tuesday, January 7, 2020, 12:49:24 AM AST, Paola Di Maio < >>> paoladimaio10@gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>> >>> Owen >>> >>> The whole purpose of life is about making aspirations true, compatibly >>> with everything else >>> >>> I think a small demo of an automated agents that monitors certain key >>> parameters written in xml is perfectly feasible, given a set of rules, >>> , as a proof of concept >>> I generally only do only what is within my immediate reach >>> Here is a way it could be done: >>> have a parameter set of CG overall goals, >>> for each member have a set of actions contributing to CG goals >>> run the agent periodically to check the status of the actions against >>> the goals >>> I am fairly sure we can find a 10 years old to help us write it :-) >>> >>> Large scale real world implementations may not be feasible >>> because too many people need to be consulted, and too many people >>> have conflicting views, and there is too much speculation and >>> profiteering >>> Technologies that dont cost much (other than server and developer time >>> perhaps) >>> tend not to be popular >>> >>> So lets think of implementing a working prototype and surely it will >>> take shape at some point. >>> At a minimum, as they used to say, we can prove that we can eat our own >>> dog food :-0D >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> On Tue, Jan 7, 2020 at 11:14 AM Owen Ambur <Owen.Ambur@verizon.net> >>> wrote: >>> >>> Please, Paola, stop. You're about to put me over the edge. >>> >>> I've long been dreaming about engaging a bunch of students in a brigade >>> to do for public agencies what they should be doing for themselves, i.e., >>> publishing their performance plans and reports in an open, standard, >>> machine-readable format like StratML. While I've been hoping it might >>> happen in India, I can't imagine the Chinese or Russian government, for >>> example, would stand for that but, hey, I love to be proven wrong ... about >>> such delirious dreams. >>> >>> Far short of that, it would be wonderful if someone could develop a >>> query service that leverages the semantics and structure of the StratML >>> schema as per the requirements outlined at Query/Discovery >>> <http://stratml.us/carmel/iso/SMLTASwStyle.xml#_15446932-208f-11e6-a80e-7333871eb3cb> >>> - Enable not only full-text but also faceted querying and discovery of >>> discrete elements of StratML documents. >>> >>> There are more than 4,000 plans in the StratML collection >>> <http://stratml.us/drybridge/index.htm> that can be used for >>> demonstration purposes. Hopefully, someday the collection will become too >>> valuable to ignore or, at least, to treat as any old unstructured >>> information, as the incumbent full-text indexing services apparently do. >>> >>> Owen >>> On 1/6/2020 9:04 PM, Paola Di Maio wrote: >>> >>> :-) lots of features to play with >>> >>> ha ha, not sure if I would like an agent to remind me I am behind >>> with my own goals but technically, neat possibility >>> >>> Let's work on the idea of a possible demo implementation/prototype - >>> >>> I design web services (workflow, general specs etc), do not write the >>> implementation code for which generally I pair with a coder >>> >>> can find some students who may want to do so, or coud even set out to >>> spend ten minutes a week towards learning how to implement myself so >>> that the geeks on this list could either help or slam >>> >>> P >>> >>> On Tue, Jan 7, 2020 at 9:46 AM Owen Ambur <Owen.Ambur@verizon.net> >>> wrote: >>> >>> Don't get me too excited, Paola. I can only stand so much fun. However, >>> at the risk of becoming delirious, I invite attention to these StratML >>> tool, app, and service requirements related to monitoring and nudging: >>> >>> Goal 7: Analysis >>> <http://stratml.us/carmel/iso/SMLTASwStyle.xml#_2384f48a-208f-11e6-8dd1-b735871eb3cb> >>> - Enable automated as well as human assisted analysis >>> >>> Goal 11: Deadline Reminders >>> <http://stratml.us/carmel/iso/SMLTASwStyle.xml#_2384fe08-208f-11e6-8dd1-b735871eb3cb> >>> - Provide notification of impending end dates for performance indicators >>> >>> Goal 15: Partnerships >>> <http://stratml.us/carmel/iso/SMLTASwStyle.xml#_2385057e-208f-11e6-8dd1-b735871eb3cb> >>> - Enable potential performance partners to easily identify each other and >>> cross-reference their common and/or complementary objectives in each >>> other's respective plans and reports (transformation of the >>> advertising/marketing paradigm) >>> >>> Goal 19: Subscriptions >>> <http://stratml.us/carmel/iso/SMLTASwStyle.xml#_23850cfe-208f-11e6-8dd1-b735871eb3cb> >>> - Provide automated notification of changes/updates to goals, objectives >>> and/or performance indicators of interest to particular stakeholder groups >>> >>> Goal 21: Critical Mass >>> <http://stratml.us/carmel/iso/SMLTASwStyle.xml#_238510c8-208f-11e6-8dd1-b735871eb3cb> >>> - Enable users to rally around, create networking "bandwagon" effects, >>> establish critical mass and reach tipping points at which achievement of >>> goals can be assured (pledges, contributions, referrals, challenges, etc.) >>> >>> I'm not smart enough to write the intelligent agents but I'd love to >>> connect with those who are. >>> >>> Owen >>> On 1/6/2020 8:29 PM, Paola Di Maio wrote: >>> >>> Thank you Own >>> >>> if we write into the plan our individual proposed actions and goals >>> we could probably also write some intelligent agent to monitor and nudge >>> how we are doing against our own targets. could be fun >>> >>> PDM >>> >>> On Tue, Jan 7, 2020 at 6:17 AM Owen Ambur <Owen.Ambur@verizon.net> >>> wrote: >>> >>> I updated my StratML rendition of our plan at >>> http://stratml.us/carmel/iso/part2/AIKRCGforComment.xml to include the >>> roles for which we have volunteered (in E-mail messages). >>> >>> It would be good if we could more explicitly document our proposed >>> deliverables as performance indicators under each of our objectives. >>> >>> Anyone who may wish to contribute toward that end could use the mailto >>> links in the plan to address comments to our listserv. >>> >>> Owen >>> On 1/3/2020 3:53 PM, carl mattocks wrote: >>> >>> >>> To help the AI KR progress in 2020 as co-chair I propose to be: >>> Co-editor of https://www.w3.org/community/aikr/ >>> Lead editor of an AI KR Element Inventory >>> Key contributor to AIKR eGovernance documents >>> >>> and continue to be a general factotum >>> >>> >>> wishing us all a happy new decade >>> >>> Carl Mattocks >>> >>> It was a pleasure to clarify >>> >>> >>> On Mon, Dec 30, 2019 at 10:45 PM Paola Di Maio <paoladimaio10@gmail.com> >>> wrote: >>> >>> Milton >>> >>> Glad you like the idea - I am thinking of a handbook that can serve as a >>> general guidance for different domains, with one version aimed at >>> egovernance. >>> >>> I see the focus egovernance rather than egovernment, but there is a lot >>> of material >>> on the latter, that we could abstract from to make it relevant and >>> generalized to fit the former >>> >>> there is still some work to be done in terms of aligning >>> different knowledge domain, >>> >>> also, I am working on a few parallel topics - diverse branches of KR >>> applications >>> with several deadlines coming up in the next few months >>> >>> thanks for the suggestion of starting a lit review on KR for governance >>> >>> Some of the resources I d like to include in a lit review are not >>> accessible >>> (started a search some time ago) and still searching for ways to access >>> them >>> >>> However there are some good resources openly accessible >>> >>> I started a tag on zotero >>> >>> https://www.zotero.org/groups/2351244/knowledge_representation/items/tag/governance >>> >>> >>> please add resources and start drafting whatever inspires you >>> >>> I am working on specific aspects of KR for eGov, and will share when >>> ready, but in the meantime, good idea to start gathering the field >>> >>> >>> PDM >>> On Sun, Dec 29, 2019 at 12:39 AM ProjectParadigm-ICT-Program < >>> metadataportals@yahoo.com> wrote: >>> >>> Dear members of the AIKR CG. I am particularly interested in the issue >>> of AI and KR for eGovernance and eGovernment. >>> The UNCAC (United Nationas Convention Against Corruption) and AML/CFT >>> treaties (anti money laundering/combating financing of terrorism) are very >>> specific in compliance and thus governance, but everything else is still >>> vague including what should constitute corporate, social, environmental, >>> human rights and sustainable development governance and the Sustainable >>> Development Goals do not in particular help clearly define governance. >>> >>> >>> In fact there is no clear definition of the boundaries, overlapping >>> issues and distinction between legislation/law enforcement/compliance, >>> moral conduct, ethical conduct/codes, corporate governance/rules of >>> conduct, governance/guidelines. >>> >>> Thus eGovernance is highly context sensitive, which makes the KR very >>> important and the AI component determining the context/environment very >>> important as well. >>> >>> What would be very useful is some essays on how to map from a >>> generalized set of concepts and ontologies onto the currently more familiar >>> areas of legislation, legal guidelines, ethical codes of conduct and the >>> various forms of more or less well established corporate, social and >>> environmental governance. >>> >>> A useful starting point would be to do a literature review on ontologies >>> and indicators for governance. >>> >>> Again, very good idea the eBook on AI and KR for eGovernance. >>> >>> Milton Ponson >>> GSM: +297 747 8280 >>> PO Box 1154, Oranjestad >>> Aruba, Dutch Caribbean >>> Project Paradigm: Bringing the ICT tools for sustainable development to >>> all stakeholders worldwide through collaborative research on applied >>> mathematics, advanced modeling, software and standards development >>> >>> >>> [deleted] >>> >>>
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