- From: carl mattocks <carlmattocks@gmail.com>
- Date: Sat, 1 Feb 2020 18:17:36 -0500
- To: W3C AIKR CG <public-aikr@w3.org>
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Members: is anyone against having a curated list of normative/non-normative reference material that includes the paper (which speaks to a CL extension of RULEML) http://ruleml.org/papers/AthanDissertation/AthanGISDissertation2011.pdf XCLX: An XML-based Common Logic eXtension with Embedded Geography Markup Language thanks Carl Mattocks co-Chair AIKR CG On Wed, Jan 8, 2020 at 9:31 AM carl mattocks <carlmattocks@gmail.com> wrote: > All AIKR : > Regarding CL - as a candidate for our curated list of > normative/non-normative reference material - please review the paper that > speaks to a CL extension of RULEML > > http://ruleml.org/papers/AthanDissertation/AthanGISDissertation2011.pdf > XCLX: An XML-based Common Logic eXtension with Embedded Geography Markup > Language > > I will send a follow on 'vote please' email after January 31 > > thanks for your participation > > Carl Mattocks > CarlMattocks@WellnessIntelligence.Institute > > It was a pleasure to clarify > > > On Tue, Jan 7, 2020 at 4:39 PM ProjectParadigm-ICT-Program < > metadataportals@yahoo.com> wrote: > >> Can I suggest we stick to StratML and CL which is the basis for >> conceptual structures (see http://www.jfsowa.com/pubs/cg4cs.pdf)? >> >> This way we know we are applying standards in the to be developed general >> common frame of reference for AI and KR. >> >> Will get back on this and my mission statemennt. >> >> Milton Ponson >> GSM: +297 747 8280 >> PO Box 1154, Oranjestad >> Aruba, Dutch Caribbean >> Project Paradigm: Bringing the ICT tools for sustainable development to >> all stakeholders worldwide through collaborative research on applied >> mathematics, advanced modeling, software and standards development >> >> >> On Tuesday, January 7, 2020, 12:49:24 AM AST, Paola Di Maio < >> paoladimaio10@gmail.com> wrote: >> >> >> Owen >> >> The whole purpose of life is about making aspirations true, compatibly >> with everything else >> >> I think a small demo of an automated agents that monitors certain key >> parameters written in xml is perfectly feasible, given a set of rules, >> , as a proof of concept >> I generally only do only what is within my immediate reach >> Here is a way it could be done: >> have a parameter set of CG overall goals, >> for each member have a set of actions contributing to CG goals >> run the agent periodically to check the status of the actions against the >> goals >> I am fairly sure we can find a 10 years old to help us write it :-) >> >> Large scale real world implementations may not be feasible >> because too many people need to be consulted, and too many people >> have conflicting views, and there is too much speculation and profiteering >> Technologies that dont cost much (other than server and developer time >> perhaps) >> tend not to be popular >> >> So lets think of implementing a working prototype and surely it will take >> shape at some point. >> At a minimum, as they used to say, we can prove that we can eat our own >> dog food :-0D >> >> >> >> >> On Tue, Jan 7, 2020 at 11:14 AM Owen Ambur <Owen.Ambur@verizon.net> >> wrote: >> >> Please, Paola, stop. You're about to put me over the edge. >> >> I've long been dreaming about engaging a bunch of students in a brigade >> to do for public agencies what they should be doing for themselves, i.e., >> publishing their performance plans and reports in an open, standard, >> machine-readable format like StratML. While I've been hoping it might >> happen in India, I can't imagine the Chinese or Russian government, for >> example, would stand for that but, hey, I love to be proven wrong ... about >> such delirious dreams. >> >> Far short of that, it would be wonderful if someone could develop a query >> service that leverages the semantics and structure of the StratML schema as >> per the requirements outlined at Query/Discovery >> <http://stratml.us/carmel/iso/SMLTASwStyle.xml#_15446932-208f-11e6-a80e-7333871eb3cb> >> - Enable not only full-text but also faceted querying and discovery of >> discrete elements of StratML documents. >> >> There are more than 4,000 plans in the StratML collection >> <http://stratml.us/drybridge/index.htm> that can be used for >> demonstration purposes. Hopefully, someday the collection will become too >> valuable to ignore or, at least, to treat as any old unstructured >> information, as the incumbent full-text indexing services apparently do. >> >> Owen >> On 1/6/2020 9:04 PM, Paola Di Maio wrote: >> >> :-) lots of features to play with >> >> ha ha, not sure if I would like an agent to remind me I am behind >> with my own goals but technically, neat possibility >> >> Let's work on the idea of a possible demo implementation/prototype - >> >> I design web services (workflow, general specs etc), do not write the >> implementation code for which generally I pair with a coder >> >> can find some students who may want to do so, or coud even set out to >> spend ten minutes a week towards learning how to implement myself so that >> the geeks on this list could either help or slam >> >> P >> >> On Tue, Jan 7, 2020 at 9:46 AM Owen Ambur <Owen.Ambur@verizon.net> wrote: >> >> Don't get me too excited, Paola. I can only stand so much fun. However, >> at the risk of becoming delirious, I invite attention to these StratML >> tool, app, and service requirements related to monitoring and nudging: >> >> Goal 7: Analysis >> <http://stratml.us/carmel/iso/SMLTASwStyle.xml#_2384f48a-208f-11e6-8dd1-b735871eb3cb> >> - Enable automated as well as human assisted analysis >> >> Goal 11: Deadline Reminders >> <http://stratml.us/carmel/iso/SMLTASwStyle.xml#_2384fe08-208f-11e6-8dd1-b735871eb3cb> >> - Provide notification of impending end dates for performance indicators >> >> Goal 15: Partnerships >> <http://stratml.us/carmel/iso/SMLTASwStyle.xml#_2385057e-208f-11e6-8dd1-b735871eb3cb> >> - Enable potential performance partners to easily identify each other and >> cross-reference their common and/or complementary objectives in each >> other's respective plans and reports (transformation of the >> advertising/marketing paradigm) >> >> Goal 19: Subscriptions >> <http://stratml.us/carmel/iso/SMLTASwStyle.xml#_23850cfe-208f-11e6-8dd1-b735871eb3cb> >> - Provide automated notification of changes/updates to goals, objectives >> and/or performance indicators of interest to particular stakeholder groups >> >> Goal 21: Critical Mass >> <http://stratml.us/carmel/iso/SMLTASwStyle.xml#_238510c8-208f-11e6-8dd1-b735871eb3cb> >> - Enable users to rally around, create networking "bandwagon" effects, >> establish critical mass and reach tipping points at which achievement of >> goals can be assured (pledges, contributions, referrals, challenges, etc.) >> >> I'm not smart enough to write the intelligent agents but I'd love to >> connect with those who are. >> >> Owen >> On 1/6/2020 8:29 PM, Paola Di Maio wrote: >> >> Thank you Own >> >> if we write into the plan our individual proposed actions and goals >> we could probably also write some intelligent agent to monitor and nudge >> how we are doing against our own targets. could be fun >> >> PDM >> >> On Tue, Jan 7, 2020 at 6:17 AM Owen Ambur <Owen.Ambur@verizon.net> wrote: >> >> I updated my StratML rendition of our plan at >> http://stratml.us/carmel/iso/part2/AIKRCGforComment.xml to include the >> roles for which we have volunteered (in E-mail messages). >> >> It would be good if we could more explicitly document our proposed >> deliverables as performance indicators under each of our objectives. >> >> Anyone who may wish to contribute toward that end could use the mailto >> links in the plan to address comments to our listserv. >> >> Owen >> On 1/3/2020 3:53 PM, carl mattocks wrote: >> >> >> To help the AI KR progress in 2020 as co-chair I propose to be: >> Co-editor of https://www.w3.org/community/aikr/ >> Lead editor of an AI KR Element Inventory >> Key contributor to AIKR eGovernance documents >> >> and continue to be a general factotum >> >> >> wishing us all a happy new decade >> >> Carl Mattocks >> >> It was a pleasure to clarify >> >> >> On Mon, Dec 30, 2019 at 10:45 PM Paola Di Maio <paoladimaio10@gmail.com> >> wrote: >> >> Milton >> >> Glad you like the idea - I am thinking of a handbook that can serve as a >> general guidance for different domains, with one version aimed at >> egovernance. >> >> I see the focus egovernance rather than egovernment, but there is a lot >> of material >> on the latter, that we could abstract from to make it relevant and >> generalized to fit the former >> >> there is still some work to be done in terms of aligning >> different knowledge domain, >> >> also, I am working on a few parallel topics - diverse branches of KR >> applications >> with several deadlines coming up in the next few months >> >> thanks for the suggestion of starting a lit review on KR for governance >> >> Some of the resources I d like to include in a lit review are not >> accessible >> (started a search some time ago) and still searching for ways to access >> them >> >> However there are some good resources openly accessible >> >> I started a tag on zotero >> >> https://www.zotero.org/groups/2351244/knowledge_representation/items/tag/governance >> >> >> please add resources and start drafting whatever inspires you >> >> I am working on specific aspects of KR for eGov, and will share when >> ready, but in the meantime, good idea to start gathering the field >> >> >> PDM >> On Sun, Dec 29, 2019 at 12:39 AM ProjectParadigm-ICT-Program < >> metadataportals@yahoo.com> wrote: >> >> Dear members of the AIKR CG. I am particularly interested in the issue of >> AI and KR for eGovernance and eGovernment. >> The UNCAC (United Nationas Convention Against Corruption) and AML/CFT >> treaties (anti money laundering/combating financing of terrorism) are very >> specific in compliance and thus governance, but everything else is still >> vague including what should constitute corporate, social, environmental, >> human rights and sustainable development governance and the Sustainable >> Development Goals do not in particular help clearly define governance. >> >> >> In fact there is no clear definition of the boundaries, overlapping >> issues and distinction between legislation/law enforcement/compliance, >> moral conduct, ethical conduct/codes, corporate governance/rules of >> conduct, governance/guidelines. >> >> Thus eGovernance is highly context sensitive, which makes the KR very >> important and the AI component determining the context/environment very >> important as well. >> >> What would be very useful is some essays on how to map from a generalized >> set of concepts and ontologies onto the currently more familiar areas of >> legislation, legal guidelines, ethical codes of conduct and the various >> forms of more or less well established corporate, social and environmental >> governance. >> >> A useful starting point would be to do a literature review on ontologies >> and indicators for governance. >> >> Again, very good idea the eBook on AI and KR for eGovernance. >> >> Milton Ponson >> GSM: +297 747 8280 >> PO Box 1154, Oranjestad >> Aruba, Dutch Caribbean >> Project Paradigm: Bringing the ICT tools for sustainable development to >> all stakeholders worldwide through collaborative research on applied >> mathematics, advanced modeling, software and standards development >> >> >> [deleted] >> >>
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