Re: Intelligence without representation

Owen
thank you

I am finding related papers, that debate the need for KR
adding them to the Zotero Library
https://www.researchgate.net/publication/220636844_Is_There_a_Future_for_AI_Without_Representation


I think that even an IG can publish outputs, but not sure - will check

I am sure some outcome will come in the end, but so far
inputs from members are just a handful,

I guess if I get some funding to invite everyone to spend a week
in some resort, maybe that could stimulate participation :-)

Until then

PDM



On Sat, Nov 23, 2019 at 12:47 PM Owen Ambur <Owen.Ambur@verizon.net> wrote:

> Paola, to me, the most interesting part of the presentation you cite is
> Brooks' "subsumption architecture": perception --> planning --> actuation.
>
> However, my interest focuses on the human level, with particular
> attention to the planning stage of his "architecture".
>
> https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/consciously-connected-communities-owen-ambur/
>
>
> I viewed his "manifesto" at
> http://people.csail.mit.edu/brooks/books%20&%20movies.html#f-m to see if
> I could find the makings of a plan to render in StratML format ... but
> was not sufficiently motivated by what I saw there to take the time and
> effort to try to decipher his plan, if he actually has one.
>
> Among my pet peeves is the usage of words like "manifesto," "framework,"
> and "policy".  To me, those words imply their authors don't really know
> what they are trying to achieve or, at least, have not thought through
> the logic of what is required to realize (accomplish) it.  If they had,
> they would have a performance plan.  Moreover, if they were civic
> minded, they'd publish it in open, standard, machine-readable format.
>
> BTW, if this group has no plan to produce any particular output, much
> less any outcome, I don't think I can justify participating merely to
> engage in aimless and perhaps endless dialogue (input and feedback).
>
> Owen
>
> On 11/22/2019 9:24 PM, Paola Di Maio wrote:
> > I think I found the culprit, at least one of the papers responsible
> > for this madness of doing
> > AI without KR
> > https://web.stanford.edu/class/cs331b/2016/presentations/paper17.pdf
> > I find the paper very interesting although I disagree
> >
> > Do people know of other papers that purport a similar hypothesis (that
> > KR is not indispensable in AI for whatever reason?)
> > thanks a lot
> > PDM
> >
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