Fwd: W3C and BSI

Dear All-

Welcome to new members of AI KR CG, please send some intro about your work
and anything you d like to share with this CG!!

FYI,  see message below, started to think towards creating a shared set of
terms
with related standards

Is anyone working with standardisation bodies and would like to advise or
add?

Any other related standards we should map?
(for those of you who may have just joined the CG
please browse/search  earlier threads)

Cheers
PDM

---------- Forwarded message ---------
From: Alan Winfield <alan.winfield@brl.ac.uk>
Date: Fri, Jun 7, 2019 at 10:30 PM
Subject: Re: W3C and BSI
To: Takiyah Williams <Takiyah.Williams@bsigroup.com>
Cc: Paola Di Maio <paoladimaio10@gmail.com>


Dear Takiyah

I write to introduce you to one of the members of the IEEE P7001 Working
Group: Dr Paola Di Maio (which I chair). Paola chairs the Artificial
Intelligence Knowledge Representation Group of the W3C Web Standards Group.
I understand that Paola would like permission to quote some of the terms
and definitions from BS 8611, in order to “… capture IEEE/BSI/ISO top level
domain vocabulary for ai/autonomous and responsible systems” (see email
thread below). I wonder if you could help (or at least point Paola is the
right direction)?

Thank you!

Best wishes
Alan






On 3 May 2019, at 09:17, Paola Di Maio <paoladimaio10@gmail.com> wrote:

Dear Alan

Thanks a lot

I am still a few years away from retirement and trying very hard to
anticipate it :-)
But I d like to make a few more contributions before I retire perhaps, if I
can

Thanks for your links, can I share excerpt from you mail with the AIKR
group?

Had heard of your article from John Havens but have not yet read it, will do
I do not plan to take much of your time, just cc you in the work being done
for you to give feedback if you like
Yes please, put me in touch with the right person at BSI to request
permission and maybe some
folks there would like to collaborate with this project?

The core vocabulary is already in the public domain through a few papers I
found (do not have the reference at hand) that describe the standard
so the permission is really just a formality to keep things above board as
much as possible
AFAIK, I could use the core vocab just referencing the publication (but
should double check on that)

Yes, the work on transparency is useful, could you send a link to the
working drafts if you have it at hand
I seem to spend half of my time searching for stuff

Thank you, look forward to hear how you advise I approach BSI about this


PDM



On Fri, May 3, 2019 at 4:08 PM Alan Winfield <alan.winfield@brl.ac.uk>
wrote:

> Hi Paolo
>
> Glad you found the P7001 intro useful, and thank you for your
> introduction. It’s great to have you on the WG.
>
> Re your request, it sounds like an interesting initiative you are leading.
> I would be happy to help out from time to time, but could not commit much
> time, since I am now retired (and trying **very** hard to work less). As
> you can imagine leading P7001 is a huge drain of time and energy.
>
> Also, I should tell you that re-use or re-publishing extracts from BSI
> standards is not something I can help with (except to put you in touch with
> BSI staff who might be able to help).
>
> However, just looking at the link in your email and in particular
>
> identify AI Ethics standards and reference documents (normative or not
> normative)
>
> you might be interested in a paper I had in Nature Electronics in
> February, on Ethical Standards in Robotics and AI. You can find a pre-print
> here
> https://www.researchgate.net/publication/331138667_Ethical_standards_in_robotics_and_AI
>
> You might also be interested in my latest blog post in which I attempt to
> list all ethical principles in robotics and AI published to date, see
> http://alanwinfield.blogspot.com/2019/04/an-updated-round-up-of-ethical.html
>
> Very best wishes
> Alan
> ________________________________
> Professor Alan Winfield (retired)
> Bristol Robotics Laboratory <http://brl.ac.uk/> &
> Science Communication Unit
> <https://www1.uwe.ac.uk/research/sciencecommunicationunit.aspx>University
> of the West of England, Bristol
> web: https://go.uwe.ac.uk/winfield
> blog: http://alanwinfield.blogspot.com/
>
> New publications:  Proc. IEEE Special Issue on Machine Ethics
> <https://ieeexplore.ieee.org/document/8662743>
> Nature Electronics Ethical Standards in Robotics and AI
> <https://www.nature.com/articles/s41928-019-0213-6.epdf?author_access_token=vyYXB-1P5X8HiGK6FbXrPtRgN0jAjWel9jnR3ZoTv0NVpc1lWWewU3DyQw0jcacDsYP_lS23VamcPvbWJ5-4AwnIXaj2dvjJtnVBNVOPR-0iQUNjJJEDlp1_3c6G-THF6C8oef75NBzGTzwiUgWIqg==>
>
> Phil. Trans. Roy. Soc. Ethical Governance is essential to trust in
> robotics and AI
> <https://royalsocietypublishing.org/doi/10.1098/rsta.2018.0085>
> Frontiers Rob. and AI Experiments in Artificial Theory of Mind
> <https://www.frontiersin.org/articles/10.3389/frobt.2018.00075/full>
>
>
>
> On 2 May 2019, at 10:50, Paola Di Maio <paola.dimaio@GMAIL.COM
> <paola.dimaio@gmail.com>> wrote:
>
> Dear Alan
>
> Thanks for the introduction to P7001 last week - I am never sure how many
> zeroes go in there
> The work on transparency is important across a number of initiatives
>
> I did not get the chance to introduce myself - I have been working
> initially as science and technology correspondent, then strived to
> understand computer, networks I became  a systems analyst and designer
> I am not a roboticist as such, but entered the world of robotics via the
> route of expert systems/knowledge based systems design (I have a Masters
> from UKC)  and the did some autonomous systems research and obtained a PhD
> (six years ago or so). I work as a lecturer, author and digital publisher
>
> I am writing to request your input/guidance/collaboration in the work that
> I am doing as the Chair of AIKR
> community group.
> https://www.w3.org/community/aikr/
>
> The task at hand is to produce an open set of data/metadata that captures
> IEEE/BSI/ISO  top level domain vocabulary for ai/autonomous and
> responsible systems
> This would imply some permission to reuse and pubish openly a subset of
> the terms from the related
> BSI standard, as well as any expertise you may like to commit
>
> Some discussion here
> https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-aikr/2019Mar/0030.html
>
>
> Please let me know  if you have any questions and thoughts
> Thanks for your consideration
>
> Paola Di Maio, PhD
>
>
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