Re: AI Concepts & StratML

Thank you Adrian
I think may be good to try different tools/approaches
including EE. Will have a go and will ping you later!
PDM

Dr Paola Di Maio
Center For Technology Ethics
ISTCS.org and  Chair: W3C AIKR  <https://www.w3.org/community/aikr/>




*A bit about me <https://about.me/paoladimaio>*



On Sun, Jul 22, 2018 at 12:29 AM, Adrian Walker <adriandwalker@gmail.com>
wrote:

> Hi Paola,
>
> Thanks for your note.  It's good to see the whole system being being
> addressed.
>
> As you may know, the Executable English platform is live online for anyone
> to use, with many examples.
>
> Here are some examples that may be relevant:
>
>   www.executable-english.com/demo_agents/DataModelling1.agent
>
>   www.executable-english.com/demo_agents/SemanticResolution2.agent
>     (contains a way of computing Semantic Distance)
>
>   www.executable-english.com/demo_agents/GrowthAndDebt1.agent
>
> Please feel free to write and run your own examples using the shared
> default "demo" ID.  Shared use is free, and there are no advertisements.
>
> I look forward to comments,
>
>                             Thanks,      -- Adrian
>
> Adrian Walker
> Executable English LLC
> San Jose, CA, USA
> 860 830 2085
> www.executable-english.com
>
> On Fri, Jul 20, 2018 at 10:26 PM, Paola Di Maio <paola.dimaio@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> Dear Adrian
>>
>> I hope you are well!
>>
>> I am walking through some ideas on a new W3C community group, see the
>> exchange below,
>> and I wonder if there is something EE could help with.  If so, please
>> consider joining the AI KR CG and help us
>> hack an EE query to extract some terms.
>>
>> Dr Paola Di Maio
>> Center For Technology Ethics
>> ISTCS.org and  Chair: W3C AIKR  <https://www.w3.org/community/aikr/>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> *A bit about me <https://about.me/paoladimaio>*
>>
>>
>>
>> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
>> From: Paola Di Maio <paola.dimaio@gmail.com>
>> Date: Sat, Jul 21, 2018 at 10:50 AM
>> Subject: Re: AI Concepts & StratML
>> To: Owen Ambur <Owen.Ambur@verizon.net>
>> Cc: carl mattocks <carlmattocks@gmail.com>, Paola Di Maio <
>> paoladimaio10@googlemail.com>, ProjectParadigm-ICT-Program <
>> metadataportals@yahoo.com>, public-aikr@w3.org, Andre Cusson <
>> akhu01@gmail.com>, Jason Lind <jasonl@transformation.run>, Chris Fox <
>> chris@chriscfox.com>, Alejandro Revuelta <alejandro.revuelta@ximdex.com>,
>> Denise Bedford <db233@georgetown.edu>
>>
>>
>> Thank you Owen and all-
>>
>> There could be a lot to munch just in this
>>
>>
>>>
>>> I was already planning to use Paola’s vocabulary form
>>> <https://www.w3.org/community/aikr/welcome/ai-kr-task-list/vocabulary/>
>>> to capture the names and definitions of the elements of the StratML
>>> standard itself.
>>>
>>
>> like, manually?or using what tool?
>>
>>
>>> However, if someone can automate the process of gleaning relevant
>>> concepts from the StratML collection
>>> <http://stratml.us/drybridge/index.htm> itself, which now includes more
>>> than 4,000 files <http://legisworks.org/StratML/catalogsitemap.html>,
>>> that would be great.
>>>
>>
>>  There may be things out there which could do this.
>> 1. should we ask Adrian Walker to hack this with executable english?
>> 2 Could this tool be useful? http://yaml-online-parser.appspot.com/
>> 3. may there be other tools out there to point to stratml homepage with a
>> few
>> selection commands and click 'extract'
>>
>>
>>>
>>> In the meantime, this Google site-specific query
>>> <https://www.google.com/search?ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&q=AI&btnG=Google+Search&domains=stratml.us&sitesearch=stratml.us>
>>> reveals about 200 StratML files referencing “AI”.
>>>
>>
>> interesting scroll
>>
>>>
>>>
>>> This one
>>> <https://www.google.com/search?ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&q=KM&btnG=Google+Search&domains=stratml.us&sitesearch=stratml.us>
>>> reveals 7 referencing “KM”.  However, that listing is incomplete because
>>> there are more than that listed at http://stratml.us/drybridge/in
>>> dex.htm#AIIMKM
>>>
>>
>> why  do you think the list is incomplete? something missing from the
>> markup?
>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I’m copying Andre Cusson since he has already give much thought to the
>>> relevance of the StratML standard in the domain of KM.  Links to the
>>> indices he created several years ago are provided at
>>> http://stratml.us/#Cusson  See, for example,
>>> http://stratml.hyperbase.com/values.html
>>>
>>
>> Nice to meet you Andre
>>
>>>
>>>
>>> BTW, most, if not necessarily all of the elements of the StratML
>>> vocabulary (plus some elements not yet included in the standard) are
>>> documented in SKOS format at http://stratml.us/draft/StratMLGlossary.xml
>>> However, the SKOS reference is informative only.  The schemas themselves
>>> are authoritative and they are documented at http://stratml.us/#Part1 &
>>> http://stratml.us/#Part2
>>>
>>>
>>>
>> good to know, SKOS is somehow to be regarded
>>
>>
>>
>> PDM
>>
>>
>>>
>>>
>>> *From:* carl mattocks <carlmattocks@gmail.com>
>>> *Sent:* Friday, July 20, 2018 9:27 AM
>>> *To:* Paola Di Maio <paoladimaio10@googlemail.com>
>>> *Cc:* Owen Ambur <Owen.Ambur@verizon.net>; ProjectParadigm-ICT-Program <
>>> metadataportals@yahoo.com>; public-aikr@w3.org
>>> *Subject:* Re: IDESG, AIKRCG & Identity
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Excellent suggestion ... having a Stratml extract based ranking plus
>>> co-location (semantic distance) should provide an excellent startpoint for
>>> further discussion
>>>
>>>
>>> It was a pleasure to clarify
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Fri, Jul 20, 2018 at 9:14 AM, Paola Di Maio <paola.dimaio@gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Also should be easy to extract a set of AI related keywords from your
>>> stratml set?
>>>
>>>  we can then make a long list and 'rank them' collectively
>>>
>>> and include the top ones in our vocab.
>>>
>>> wouldnt this make a nice project and one possible paper?
>>>
>>> cheers
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> P
>>>
>>>
>>> Dr Paola Di Maio
>>>
>>> Center For Technology Ethics
>>>
>>> ISTCS.org and  Chair: W3C AIKR  <https://www.w3.org/community/aikr/>
>>>
>>>
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>>> *A bit about me <https://about.me/paoladimaio>*
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>>> On Fri, Jul 20, 2018 at 4:31 PM, Paola Di Maio <paola.dimaio@gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Owen
>>>
>>> I browsed stratml web page and there seem to be a lot of initiatives
>>> relevant to CG mission
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I wonder if one (not me tho) could build a parsing agent to match our cg
>>> GOAL and mission to other entities
>>>
>>> and then invite the folks in charge or relevant bits to submit their
>>> open knowledge schemas and/or documentation
>>>
>>> to this cg
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> if building the agent is too expensive, we could do this manually?
>>>
>>> just thinking
>>>
>>> PDM
>>>
>>>
>>> Dr Paola Di Maio
>>>
>>> Center For Technology Ethics
>>>
>>> ISTCS.org and  Chair: W3C AIKR  <https://www.w3.org/community/aikr/>
>>>
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>>> *A bit about me <https://about.me/paoladimaio>*
>>>
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>>> On Wed, Jul 18, 2018 at 8:33 PM, Owen Ambur <Owen.Ambur@verizon.net>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> IDESG’s mission and objectives are available in StratML format at
>>> http://stratml.us/drybridge/index.htm#IDESG and so too are the goals
>>> and objectives of this group as identified thus far, at
>>> http://stratml.us/drybridge/index.htm#AIKRCG   I look forward to
>>> learning how they might mesh and mutually support each other.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> BTW, as far as personal and organizational identities are concerned,
>>> what I care most about are personal values supported by longer-term goals
>>> and near-term objectives realized in performance metrics documented in
>>> records having the attributes outlined in ISO 15489.
>>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Machine-Readable_Documents#Definition
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Owen
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> *From:* carl mattocks <carlmattocks@gmail.com>
>>> *Sent:* Wednesday, July 18, 2018 9:26 AM
>>> *To:* Paola Di Maio <paoladimaio10@googlemail.com>
>>> *Cc:* ProjectParadigm-ICT-Program <metadataportals@yahoo.com>;
>>> public-aikr@w3.org
>>> *Subject:* Re: welcome newcomers subgroups, home page and categories
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> To help progress .. please consider using a page with content similar to
>>> 'concept creation' guidelines
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> ·
>>>
>>> o    1.1 What sort of 'thing' is this proposed concept anyway?
>>> <https://wiki.idesg.kantarainitiative.org/wiki/index.php/Concept_Creation_Guidelines#What_sort_of_.27thing.27_is_this_proposed_concept_anyway.3F>
>>>
>>> o    1.2 How to decide? Is it important?
>>> <https://wiki.idesg.kantarainitiative.org/wiki/index.php/Concept_Creation_Guidelines#How_to_decide.3F_Is_it_important.3F>
>>>
>>> o    1.3 Understanding context
>>> <https://wiki.idesg.kantarainitiative.org/wiki/index.php/Concept_Creation_Guidelines#Understanding_context>
>>>
>>> o    1.4 The "Conversation" is valuable
>>> <https://wiki.idesg.kantarainitiative.org/wiki/index.php/Concept_Creation_Guidelines#The_.22Conversation.22_is_valuable>
>>>
>>> ·         2 Using a Meta-Model (or two)
>>> <https://wiki.idesg.kantarainitiative.org/wiki/index.php/Concept_Creation_Guidelines#Using_a_Meta-Model_.28or_two.29>
>>>
>>> ·         3 Create a new proposed Concept
>>> <https://wiki.idesg.kantarainitiative.org/wiki/index.php/Concept_Creation_Guidelines#Create_a_new_proposed_Concept>
>>>
>>> https://wiki.idesg.kantarainitiative.org/wiki/index.php/Conc
>>> ept_Creation_Guidelines
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Carl Mattocks
>>>
>>>
>>> It was a pleasure to clarify
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Wed, Jul 18, 2018 at 1:55 AM, Paola Di Maio <paola.dimaio@gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Thank you Milton
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Do you have a way you'd like to propose the way forward?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Shall we just create two pages, where we collect existing definitions
>>> and come up with our own
>>>
>>> definition that possibly encompasses them all, thus delivers the
>>> broadest possible meaning?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Should the group be the 'owner' of these two definitions?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Let me know if you can initiate these two pages
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> P
>>>
>>>
>>> Dr Paola Di Maio
>>>
>>> Center For Technology Ethics
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> ISTCS.org
>>>
>>> Chair: W3C AIKR  <https://www.w3.org/community/aikr/>
>>>
>>>
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>>>
>>> *A bit about me <https://about.me/paoladimaio>*
>>>
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>>>
>>> On Wed, Jul 18, 2018 at 3:21 AM, ProjectParadigm-ICT-Program <
>>> metadataportals@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi Paola and other members of the AIKR community group.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Two things we need to establish to reach a consensus of the area we are
>>> going to deal with.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Number one: the broadest possible definition of what constitutes
>>> "artificial intelligence" and number two what constitutes "knowledge
>>> representation" also in the broadest possible sense.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Only then can we assess what grounds we want or need to cover.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> It is for that reason I proposed to create and overview map of what
>>> currently constitutes AI and related disciplines.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> But I am also writing a definition paper using category theory to
>>> establish a generalized framework which introduces all possible categories
>>> of interacting entities, and utilizes a system to define boundaries for AI
>>> for interaction, as suggested by the likes of Stephen Hawking, Elon Musk,
>>> Kurzweil and countless others.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> regards
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Milton Ponson
>>> GSM: +297 747 8280
>>> PO Box 1154, Oranjestad
>>> Aruba, Dutch Caribbean
>>> *Project Paradigm*: Bringing the ICT tools for sustainable development
>>> to all stakeholders worldwide through collaborative research on applied
>>> mathematics, advanced modeling, software and standards development
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Sunday, July 15, 2018 2:41 AM, Paola Di Maio <paola.dimaio@gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Welcome newcomers (22 members!)
>>>
>>> there's a thread in the mailing list to intro yourselves at your
>>> convenience
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Based on other work, and anticipating future developments
>>>
>>> (Milton mentioned subgroups) I have created a page subgroups, and opened
>>> two additional pages as containers for future subgroups where some work may
>>> be needed (AI Ethics KR and Professional schemas).
>>>
>>> Feel free to edit, add, enter etc
>>>
>>> https://www.w3.org/community/aikr/subgroups/
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> This is a bit ahead of us perhaps but things are moving fast to have the
>>> pages may be cognitive support. The professional schema entry may need
>>> better wording, I have not thought it property yet.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I have two issues with our home page, maybe W3C folks on this list can
>>> assist?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Here
>>>
>>> https://www.w3.org/community/aikr/
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> 1. The main text area of the page contains some duplicate text, I dont
>>> seem to be able to edit/access the upper portion of the group description,
>>> I have pinged Veronica Thom about this but have not yet had any reply.
>>> Maybe this was created by staff and I cannot edit? can someone assist
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> 2. On the right hand sidebar, where it says 'categories'
>>>
>>> the categories which I created are not listed, can someone help?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Thank you!!
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> PDM
>>>
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>>> Dr Paola Di Maio
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>>> Center For Technology Ethics
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>>> ISTCS.org
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