MINUTES: APA WAI-Adapt Task Force Teleconference - Monday 11 July 2022 Agenda

Hi all,

Please find minutes at the following link with the plain text following.

https://www.w3.org/2022/07/11-adapt-minutes.html


Best,
--Mike

[15:09] <Zakim> agendum 1 -- Last items before we request APA to move Module 1 to CR status. Spec content ready? -- taken up [from Lionel_Wolberger]
[15:10] <mike_beganyi> Lionel_Wolberger: focus on going to CR. resolution to ask APA CFC to move Module 1 to CR status. anything blocking that?
[15:11] <Roy> q+
[15:11] * Zakim sees Roy on the speaker queue
[15:11] <mike_beganyi> janina: don't believe so. pull requests: issue 213 deemed editorial. 212 grammatical.these have been merged
[15:11] <mike_beganyi> ack Roy
[15:11] * Zakim sees no one on the speaker queue
[15:12] <mike_beganyi> Roy: fix all of the links in the document. references updated before CR. will fix tomorrow
[15:12] <mike_beganyi> janina: you have a full week to do that. CFC will run for a week
[15:13] <mike_beganyi> janina: will need a link for CFC, but wait until resolution in this TF
[15:13] <Lionel_Wolberger> q?
[15:13] * Zakim sees no one on the speaker queue
[15:13] <mike_beganyi> Roy: will create implementation page on WAI website. will someone help to summarize all implementations we have? I can list them on the page
[15:14] <mike_beganyi> janina: series of things to do. don't need answers today. do have answers for all of them. need to gather data to present. have at least a week.
[15:14] <mike_beganyi> Lionel_Wolberger: link to which page, Janina?
[15:15] <janina> https://www.w3.org/2021/Process-20211102/#transition-cr

[15:15] <mike_beganyi> janina: after we vote the resolution, not before. after we ask APA to do it this is next steps
[15:16] <janina> agenda?
[15:16] * Zakim sees 9 items remaining on the agenda:
[15:16] * Zakim 1. Last items before we request APA to move Module 1 to CR status. Spec content ready? [from Lionel_Wolberger]
[15:16] * Zakim 2. 3.6 edit (see git link) (Janina) [from Lionel_Wolberger]
[15:16] * Zakim 3. Blog post draft ready (Lionel) [from Lionel_Wolberger]
[15:16] * Zakim 4. CR Announcement is teed up in the WAI wiki (Sharon) [from Lionel_Wolberger]
[15:16] * Zakim 5. Disambiguate between HTML <rel> and WAI-Adapt specified "purpose/destination/ action."" (Lionel) [from Lionel_Wolberger]
[15:16] * Zakim 6. TPAC 12-16 September 2022 [from Lionel_Wolberger]
[15:16] * Zakim 7. Editor's note for symbols (Janina action) [from dependent on the rewrite of 3.6 above via Lionel_Wolberger]
[15:16] * Zakim 8. Content Module Implementations Status, focus on new candidates [from Lionel_Wolberger]
[15:16] * Zakim 9. (on hold until following CR) Planning future COGA meetings on our other two modules; BCI Registry Implementation: Next steps [from Lionel_Wolberger]
[15:17] <mike_beganyi> Lionel_Wolberger: let's do the resolution today
[15:18] <mike_beganyi> janina: suggest we're ready to do resolution then discuss other items
[15:18] <janina> DRAFT RESOLUTION: The WAI-Adapt Task Force requests that APA conduct a
[15:18] <janina> Call for Consensus to transition WAI-Adapt Content Module 1.0
[15:18] <janina> (https://w3c.github.io/adapt/content/) to Candidate Recommendation.
[15:19] <Lionel_Wolberger> DRAFT RESOLUTION: The WAI-Adapt Task Force requests that APA conduct a Call for Consensus to transition WAI-Adapt Content Module 1.0
[15:20] <Lionel_Wolberger> DRAFT RESOLUTION: The WAI-Adapt Task Force requests that APA conduct a Call for Consensus to transition WAI-Adapt Content Module 1.0 (https://w3c.github.io/adapt/content/) to Candidate Recommendation.
[15:21] <mike_beganyi> q?
[15:21] * Zakim sees no one on the speaker queue
[15:22] <mike_beganyi> RESOLUTION: The WAI-Adapt Task Force requests that APA conduct a Call for Consensus to transition WAI-Adapt Content Module 1.0 (https://w3c.github.io/adapt/content/) to Candidate Recommendation.
[15:22] <Lionel_Wolberger> rrsagent, make minutes
[15:22] <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2022/07/11-adapt-minutes.html Lionel_Wolberger
[15:22] * Matthew_Atkinson Lionel_Wolberger: you beat me to that (making minutes) :-)
[15:22] <CharlesL> rrsagent, make logs public
[15:22] <RRSAgent> I have made the request, CharlesL
[15:25] <mike_beganyi> janina: Roy will correct links that point to personalization. these things are grammatical and editorial. those changes can be made at any time. the CFC needs to contain a snapshot of what we voted on. what we vote on itself does not change.
[15:26] <Lionel_Wolberger> DRAFT RESOLUTION: The WAI-Adapt Task Force requests updated Working Draft publication of an updated W3C Working Draft Note of the WAI-Adapt Explainer (https://w3c.github.io/adapt/content/).
[15:26] <Roy> https://w3c.github.io/adapt/

[15:27] <Roy> W3C Group Draft Note
[15:27] <Lionel_Wolberger> DRAFT RESOLUTION: The WAI-Adapt Task Force requests updated Working Draft publication of the WAI-Adapt Explainer (https://w3c.github.io/adapt/) as a W3C Group Draft Note.
[15:28] <CharlesL> +1
[15:28] <Lionel_Wolberger> +1
[15:28] <mike_beganyi> +1
[15:28] <becky> +1
[15:29] <Roy> +1
[15:29] <mike_beganyi> RESOLUTION: The WAI-Adapt Task Force requests updated Working Draft publication of the WAI-Adapt Explainer (https://w3c.github.io/adapt/) as a W3C Group Draft Note.
[15:29] <Lionel_Wolberger> rrsagent, make minutes
[15:29] <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2022/07/11-adapt-minutes.html Lionel_Wolberger
[15:29] <mike_beganyi> zakim, next item
[15:29] <Zakim> agendum 2 -- 3.6 edit (see git link) (Janina) -- taken up [from Lionel_Wolberger]
[15:30] <mike_beganyi> Lionel_Wolberger: believe you've resolved it?
[15:31] <mike_beganyi> janina: not quite. need to support transition to CR. there's a hyperlink in there we should all look at. demonstrates that this is ready for CR. APA alone cannot solely approve. requires approval from other W3C groups
[15:32] <mike_beganyi> janina: proposing a wiki. first point is to point to the criteria that we are satisfying. hopefully each that this spec meets will have its own idref so that approval can be simplified.
[15:33] <mike_beganyi> janina: looking for volunteers to find those
[15:34] <Lionel_Wolberger> https://www.w3.org/groups/tf/personalization-tf/tools

[15:34] <CharlesL> q+
[15:34] * Zakim sees CharlesL on the speaker queue
[15:35] <Lionel_Wolberger> https://www.w3.org/groups/tf/personalization-tf/tools

[15:35] <mike_beganyi> CharlesL: when you change doc name you change links. if we've sent those out the links will be invalid.
[15:35] <Lionel_Wolberger> https://www.w3.org/WAI/ARIA/task-forces/personalization/wiki/Main_Page

[15:35] <mike_beganyi> janina: Roy knows this is an action item on him
[15:35] <mike_beganyi> ack Charles
[15:35] * Zakim sees no one on the speaker queue
[15:35] <Roy> https://github.com/w3c/adapt/wiki

[15:36] <Roy> https://www.w3.org/TR/adapt-requirements/

[15:36] <Roy> https://github.com/w3c/adapt/wiki/Requirements

[15:36] <Lionel_Wolberger> https://github.com/w3c/adapt/wiki/Requirements

[15:38] <mike_beganyi> janina: we don't have separate docs for each requirement. can come up with a list to capture all of them.
[15:38] <Roy> https://www.w3.org/TR/adapt-requirements/

[15:38] <mike_beganyi> Roy: can republish this document and classify the features into different modules
[15:39] <mike_beganyi> Roy: have a section that indicates features for module 1, etc. a simpler approach
[15:40] <janina> https://www.w3.org/2021/Process-20211102/#transition-cr

[15:40] <Lionel_Wolberger> Mapping requirements to the Content Module 1.0 is accomplished by this Group Draft Note, https://www.w3.org/TR/adapt-requirements/

[15:41] <Roy> https://www.w3.org/2021/Process-20211102/#Note

[15:42] <mike_beganyi> janina: going back to list published above, these are steps to move to CR
[15:42] <mike_beganyi> janina: link I posted specified steps to satisfy in order to go to CR
[15:43] <mike_beganyi> janina: don't think we have any changes to dependencies (item 2 from list available at above link)
[15:44] <mike_beganyi> janina: will report on building and deployment of a registry
[15:45] <mike_beganyi> janina: how will we demonstrate that our implementations will actually work? make content for modules to point to. browser extensions/3rd party will make them work
[15:45] <Lionel_Wolberger> * Lionel notes again for the record, we are following the bulleted list in 6.3.7. Transitioning to Candidate Recommendation, https://www.w3.org/2021/Process-20211102/#transition-cr

[15:45] <mike_beganyi> janina: how we will exit CR and go to next level. we know we have to create content and support user agent implementations
[15:46] <mike_beganyi> janina: specify deadlines for comments. leave for Michael and Roy to figure out. any disclosures are 28 days, but may be 60. opportunity for people to disclose patents they might have and they won't prevent this spec
[15:47] <mike_beganyi> janina: wide review. want to point to Lisa for help with this. lots of wide review has been conducted
[15:48] <mike_beganyi> Lionel_Wolberger: presented at TPAC 2017, I think. also, TPAC 2021.
[15:48] <CharlesL> q+
[15:48] * Zakim sees CharlesL on the speaker queue
[15:48] <mike_beganyi> janina: Lisa would be worth consulting with on this
[15:48] <mike_beganyi> janina: history goes back many years
[15:50] <mike_beganyi> Lionel_Wolberger: demonstration and implementation pages. other examples of wide review. clearly quite extensive
[15:52] <CharlesL> q?
[15:52] * Zakim sees CharlesL on the speaker queue
[15:52] <Lionel_Wolberger> Here are the "Wide Review" sentences we just curated
[15:52] <Lionel_Wolberger> The history on WAI-Adapt goes back 15-20 years and is one of the most researched and inspected specifications in internet history.
[15:53] <mike_beganyi> CharlesL: I think we also presented in Lisbon as well as Lyons. I thought it was Lisbon we got the feedback at TAG about data dash.
[15:53] <mike_beganyi> janina: in hand with not being able to use AUI
[15:53] <Lionel_Wolberger> Requirements originated in the first ARIA standard, the list was then refined in COGA, Presented at TPAC Leons (2017) Applications Working Group, at TPAC Lisbon to TAG, TPAC 2021
[15:53] <Lionel_Wolberger> Also at CSUN 2022
[15:53] <mike_beganyi> janina: TAG has reviewed this. important point
[15:53] <Lionel_Wolberger> demonstration implementations (some funded by the EU) by Ayeleth Seeman and Matthew Atkinson have been demonstrated multiple times.
[15:53] <Lionel_Wolberger> The access-board.gov.il has agreed to doing a markup based on this content module.
[15:53] <Roy> TAG: https://github.com/w3ctag/design-reviews/issues/476

[15:53] <mike_beganyi> ack charles
[15:53] * Zakim sees no one on the speaker queue
[15:55] <mike_beganyi> janina: any features at risk? (last item on list). we do not have any. we have one that will require us to republish CR. as soon as it gets CR that's when I open git for permanent prefix


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Hi all,

Please review the agenda for Monday's WAI-Adapt TF call and let us know if there are any other topics that need to be added:

Chair: Lionel

Focus:  Last items before we request APA to move Module 1 to CR status


  *   agenda+ Last items before we request APA to move Module 1 to CR status. Spec content ready?
  *   agenda+ 3.6 edit (see git link) (Janina)
  *   agenda+ Blog post draft ready (Lionel)
  *   agenda+ CR Announcement is teed up in the WAI wiki (Sharon)
  *   agenda+ Disambiguate between HTML <rel> and WAI-Adapt specified "purpose/destination/ action."" (Lionel)
  *   agenda+ TPAC 12-16 September 2022
  *   agenda+ Editor's note for symbols (Janina action) [dependent on the rewrite of 3.6 above]
  *   agenda+ Content Module Implementations Status, focus on new candidates
  *   agenda+ (on hold until following CR) Planning future COGA meetings on our other two modules; BCI Registry Implementation: Next steps



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