Re: APA Adapt Task Force Teleconference - Monday 08 Aug 2022 Agenda

Hi all,

Please find today's minutes at https://www.w3.org/2022/08/15-adapt-minutes.html and below in text form for convenience.

Best regards,


Matthew

                             – DRAFT –
                  WAI Adapt Task Force Teleconference

15 August 2022

   [2]IRC log.

      [2] https://www.w3.org/2022/08/15-adapt-irc


Attendees

   Present
          becky, CharlesL, janina, JF, Lionel_Wolberger,
          Matthew_Atkinson, MichaelC, mike_beganyi, Roy, Sharon_

   Regrets
          -

   Chair
          -

   Scribe
          Lionel_Wolberger, Matthew_Atkinson

Contents

    1. [3]Plans for Sept.
    2. [4]TPAC 12-16 September 2022 preparations
    3. [5]CfC for Content Module 1.0 CR Status
         1. [6]Exit criteria
         2. [7]TAG response resolution
         3. [8]BCI
    4. [9]BCI Registry Implementation

Meeting minutes

   <Github> [10]https://github.com/w3c/adapt/issues/203 : Unclear
   how the Bliss symbol examples should work with i10n/i18n.

     [10] https://github.com/w3c/adapt/issues/203


  Plans for Sept.

   Lionel_Wolberger: There's a run of Mondays in September where
   we won't be meeting for various reasons.

   Lionel_Wolberger: Labor Day (5th); TPAC (12th); rest week
   following TPAC (19th).

   <CharlesL> I will be at TPAC in person.

   Lionel_Wolberger: *asks for objections; none received*

   Lionel_Wolberger: Thus we agree to not meet those three weeks.

   Lionel_Wolberger: There will be a lot of Adapt activity at
   TPAC.

  TPAC 12-16 September 2022 preparations

   Lionel_Wolberger: TPAC is Technical Plenary and Advisory
   Committee meetings. Excellent place to move work forward.

   Lionel_Wolberger: Look at the APA schedule; APA has a lot of
   meetings; Adapt is covered in many of these.

   [11]https://www.w3.org/WAI/APA/wiki/Meetings/TPAC_2022


     [11] https://www.w3.org/WAI/APA/wiki/Meetings/TPAC_2022


   Lionel_Wolberger: It'd be helpful to have a run down of what
   Adapt expects at TPAC. We have work with CSS, Verifiable
   Credentials. Also interest in i18n.

   janina: Also the TAG... we received an invite and are following
   up with them.

   janina: There are some issues they raised with respect to
   transitioning to CR, and Sharon did a lot of useful research to
   allow us to check on how we responded to those.
   … Also looking at building the registry. (Following up with
   MichaelC and Russell regarding the nature of the spreadsheet
   that can be used as the basis.)

   janina: TAG is important for all the work we're doing—registry
   too, as it's a new vehicle.

   JF: TAG = Technical Architecture Group

   CharlesL: With the Registry, should we reach out to Ralph, who
   is the technical person behind the website, in addition to TAG?

   MichaelC: We'd loop Ralph in on the transition request to
   publish it. There are other technical people who're on the
   front line too.

   Lionel_Wolberger: There will also be joint meetings with APA
   and COGA; what's Adapt's role there?

   janina: We're not yet fully aware of COGA's agenda, though
   there is a 3-way meeting with AGWG and COGA first thing on
   Monday. This will cover Functional Needs, as COGA wanted to
   discuss this.

   janina: I asked for other agenda from COGA.

   MichaelC: We may not have COGA facilitators present; we are
   following up about whether this can go ahead on the APA
   planning call.

   janina: I'll speak with COGA tomorrow.

   Lionel_Wolberger: Doesn't seem that Adapt is key to the
   currently-planned joint meeting.

   janina: Yes (whilst it could be part of the solution, it's not
   fundamental to that agenda).

   Lionel_Wolberger: Other meetings?

   janina: We (chairs) are following up, re TAG.

   Lionel_Wolberger: I'll be there locally. Will we have remote
   participation?

   janina: I expect all meetings will have remote participation as
   an option.

   Lionel_Wolberger: Will propose a breakout, and update the
   slides.

   Matthew_Atkinson: The other part is a
   probably-less-than-one-minute pitch about Adapt, which we can
   all learn, and impart to people as-and-when the opportunity
   arises.

   MichaelC: Not sure about the breakout schedule/proposition as
   of yet.

   <janina> [12]https://www.w3.org/2022/09/TPAC/Overview.html


     [12] https://www.w3.org/2022/09/TPAC/Overview.html


   Lionel_Wolberger: Shall we wear buttons (we did back in
   Verifiable Credentials)? What about a one-page document that we
   could provide to interested people?

   janina: Yes to the document (no to buttons)—could use the
   abstract we already have. Printing it out and putting a QR code
   to the wiki page/the spec.

   janina: If people want to set these things up, I'm sure the
   group would be happy for it to happen.

   Lionel_Wolberger: I can print these out for the breakout
   session.

   Lionel_Wolberger: Do we want to talk about CSS about Adapt and
   Media Queries?

   janina: Yes; it's scheduled (on the wiki).

   Lionel_Wolberger: Do we want to address the concern about the
   burden of authoring?

   janina: I think our energies are better placed in getting the
   specs advanced at this point.

   janina: We need the Registry to be at FPWD in order to be able
   to get Content to second CR.

   Matthew_Atkinson: I see the concerns about authoring burden.
   Especially with the registry in conjunction with authoring
   tools, there are several ways the tools could help authors add
   concepts to their content. We should keep this in mind, and
   build on the specs later.
   … It's important to keep the behavior predictable at run-time
   (but there's lots we can do at authoring time to raise
   awareness).

   JF: We met at TPAC in Burlingame (2017) and there were some
   WYSIWYG authoring tool people there; we could approach them
   with ideas about this.

   <JF> Web Editing Working Group: [13]https://www.w3.org/2021/06/

   web-editing-wg-charter.html

     [13] https://www.w3.org/2021/06/web-editing-wg-charter.html


   Lionel_Wolberger: Should we touch base with ATAG? [Group
   indicated maybe, but just right now the focus is on WCAG
   2.2-related work.]

   Lionel_Wolberger: Anything with i18n?

   janina: We've resolved our issue with them; we have other
   issues to discuss with them regarding other work.

   Lionel_Wolberger: How about COGA?

   janina: We need agenda.

   Lionel_Wolberger: let Sharon and I work on this in planning.

   Sharon_: +1

  CfC for Content Module 1.0 CR Status

    Exit criteria

   Lionel_Wolberger: This was assigned to me and Matthew_Atkinson
   and we've been working on it.

   Matthew_Atkinson: We have listed 205 possible attribute/value
   pairs
   … we will need at least two independent implementations
   … Matthew_Atkinson is preparing a test page that will offer all
   attribute/values to any potential test
   … the exit criteria need some more work

   Lionel_Wolberger: The exit criteria will express how tests will
   be logged, so we can see when we have achieved our exit
   critera.

   Link to the exit criteria google doc, [14]https://
   docs.google.com/document/d/
   1bNEUCqE7SxwkhmENIO620yVTjeAnhn_5Bi4AY8oQJEA/edit#

     [14] https://docs.google.com/document/d/1bNEUCqE7SxwkhmENIO620yVTjeAnhn_5Bi4AY8oQJEA/edit


   Lionel_Wolberger: When finalized, where should we publish the
   exit criteria?

   MichaelC: Typically we publish it as an appendix on the spec
   itself.

    TAG response resolution

   Sharon_: I did the research: [15]https://lists.w3.org/Archives/

   Public/public-adapt/2022Jul/0011.html

     [15] https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-adapt/2022Jul/0011.html


   janina: We covered this earlier; we're as ready as we can be
   for the TAG meeting.

    BCI

   janina: We're waiting to hear back from Russell; I touched base
   with MichaelC on the follow-up just before this call.

   <Github> [16]https://github.com/w3c/adapt/issues/203 : Unclear
   how the Bliss symbol examples should work with i10n/i18n.

     [16] https://github.com/w3c/adapt/issues/203


  BCI Registry Implementation

   MichaelC: I'll propose a draft document that will define the
   registry and its structure.

   Lionel_Wolberger: We have a CSV file now.

   MichaelC: Yes; the registry doc will provide required
   explanation around this, of the aims, structure, relevant
   policies.

   MichaelC: Can't promise a draft before TPAC (though working on
   it). We should have something high-level before then.

   Lionel_Wolberger: *Runs through outline*

   MichaelC: If you're happy to draft the outline, go ahead. I
   should probably draft the structure-related parts.

   MichaelC: The most important part for us is to describe the
   meaning of the data.


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On 15/08/2022, 14:48, "Lionel Wolberger" <lionel@userway.org> wrote:

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    Hi all,

    Please find below the agenda for Monday's WAI-Adapt TF call and let us know if there are any other topics that need to be added:

    Chair: Lionel


    * agenda+ Plans for Sept. (Note: 3 weeks without Adapt TF meetings - Labor Day, week of TPAC and week after TPAC)
    * agenda+ TPAC 12-16 September 2022 preparations
    * agenda+ CfC for Content Module 1.0 CR Status, Issues raised by the W3C Director upon their review [1] Exit criteria, [2] TAG Response Resolution [3] BCI
    * agenda+ BCI Registry Implementation
    * agenda+ Respond to issue #203 (Janina)
    * agenda+ Discuss @rel vs. purpose/destination/action -- add to the explainer
    * agenda+ Content Module Implementations Status, focus on new candidates


    The  teleconference information is at: call info - adapt <https://www.w3.org/2017/08/telecon-info_adapt>
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    Hi all,

    Please review the agenda for Monday's WAI-Adapt TF call and let us know if there are any other topics that need to be added:

    Chair: Sharon

    * agenda+ CfC for Content Module 1.0 CR Status, Issues raised by the W3C Director upon their review 
         * [1] Exit criteria & Conformance in Content Module (Lionel & Matt)
         * [2] TAG Response Resolution 
         * [3] agenda+ BCI & Registry Implementation (https://www.w3.org/2021/Process-20211102/#registries)
    * agenda+ Respond to issue #203 (Janina)
    * agenda+ TPAC 12-16 September 2022 preparations
    * agenda+ Discuss @rel vs. purpose/destination/action -- add to the explainer
    * agenda+ Content Module Implementations Status, focus on new candidates 


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