Re: DRAFT - minutes PSO-PC teleconference 22 November

Amy,
Thanks. They look good to me. Just one editorial (I would guess) in the third para from the end. See below.
Brian.

  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Amy van der Hiel 
  To: pso-pc@w3.org 
  Sent: Friday, December 20, 2002 8:37 PM
  Subject: DRAFT - minutes PSO-PC teleconference 22 November


  Dear All -- 

  Below please find the minutes of the 22 November 2002 teleconference.  I am very sorry for the delay in sending these out.

  Please let me know if you have any corrections or suggestions.  

  Thank you very much and best wishes for the New Year.

  Regards,
  Amy
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  ICANN Protocol Standards Organization Protocol Council (PSO-PC)
  22 November 2002 Teleconference
  Reported by: Amy van der Hiel, PSO-PC Secretary

  Participants:
  Azucena Hernandez, ETSI Representative
  Richard Hill, ITU Representative
  Tapio Kaijanen, ETSI Representative
  Brian Moore, ITU-T Representative
  Amy van der Hiel, W3C, PSO Secretary

  Regrets:
  Martin Dürst, W3C Representative
  Geoff Huston, IETF Representative
  Mike St.Johns, IETF Representative
  Daniel Weitzner, W3C Representative


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  1. Report on ICANN meeting Shanghai (Richard Hill)
  http://www.icann.org/shanghai/

  Richard said he made a presentation of the PSO Status Report http://www.w3.org/2002/PSO/Talks/20021021/slide1-0.html in Shanghai but he received no questions or comments.  He noted that the ICANN Board approved the new bylaws [http://www.icann.org/committees/evol-reform/fourth-supplemental-implementation-report-08dec02.htm] effective in December.  The bylaws http://www.icann.org/committees/evol-reform/proposed-transition-article-24nov02.htm  called for abolishing the PSO  and replacing it with the Technical Liaison Group (formerly referred to as the Technical Advisory Committee http://www.icann.org/committees/evol-reform/second-supplemental-implementation-report-23oct02.htm ).  

  Richard noted that the issues  that had earlier concerned the PC, such as order of rotation,  had been sorted out. Azucena asked if there was any debate about rotation order. Richard said that no, the changes just appeared in the report. 

  Amy asked about the time line. Richard said that the expectation was that there would be a meeting [http://www.icann.org/amsterdam/]  on December 15th in which ICANN would approve the transition article which will make the bylaws effective.  The PSO, as a body which was created by ICANN bylaws, would then cease to exist.  Richard noted that, as was pointed out in the previous teleconference, there were still some formal issues with the MOU, and someone would need to follow through on the dissolution.  Azucena asked if there would be any action by ICANN.  Richard said that during an ad hoc meeting Louis had said he'd think about it.   

  Azucena asked if there would be any delay in the appointment of the new COO in January.  Richard said he was not sure the new COO would be appointed in January. He said the issue was clearly within Louis' sphere but he wasn't sure if Louis would write a letter on this issue after the December meeting or not.  He said Louis had no comments on the TLG.  Brian noted that the latest report was quite an improvement over the earlier drafts.  

  Amy asked how the PSO should move forward.  Richard noted that the PC could wait and look for confirmation of the new bylaws from ICANN.  Brian noted that there would have to be a time when the existing MOU is terminated and new arrangements would come into place.  Richard said he anticipated this would happen after the December.  Brian agreed and said the PC could be facing new arrangements in January.   Azucena stated that there was no need to arrange for a new teleconference unless the PC were contacted by ICANN.  Brian agreed and said that unless the group was asked to do something, there is no need for another call.  

  Azucena asked if until the dissolution of the PSO,  the W3C would keep the web site up and accessible; that she would prefer that the information was kept intact.  Amy said she would ask Danny and Martin but noted the W3C has a policy of not getting rid of web sites.  Richard noted that it is Tim Berners-Lee's policy that web sites are kept up.   

  (Note: Martin replied that his position is that the PSO site should just stay as it is at the W3C --  that ICANN need not take over the PSO site as it would just create additional work.  He suggested that when the PSO is formally dissolved, the PSO site could be updated with a text about the dissolution, the date, etc.  He suggested that ICANN should create new web pages and mailing lists for the TLG).

  Brian noted that he was in favor of the TLG web site being supported by ICANN.  Azucena agreed and proposed on behalf of IETF  
  ETSI ?
  that ICANN host the web site as opposed to the member of the group.  Brian agreed that it made sense for ICANN to take over the maintenance and hosting.  

  Amy asked if there were any further topics. Brian said that the PC wait and see if any issues around the transition came up. Amy suggested that any new issues could be raised on the mailing list and a call could be arranged if needed.  She noted this might be the last call of the PSO and thanked the PC. 

  As per the discussion, no upcoming teleconference was scheduled.



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  Amy van der Hiel
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