DRAFT - minutes PSO-PC teleconference 22 November

Dear All --

Below please find the minutes of the 22 November 2002 teleconference.  I am 
very sorry for the delay in sending these out.

Please let me know if you have any corrections or suggestions.

Thank you very much and best wishes for the New Year.

Regards,
Amy
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ICANN Protocol Standards Organization Protocol Council (PSO-PC)
22 November 2002 Teleconference
Reported by: Amy van der Hiel, PSO-PC Secretary

Participants:
Azucena Hernandez, ETSI Representative
Richard Hill, ITU Representative
Tapio Kaijanen, ETSI Representative
Brian Moore, ITU-T Representative
Amy van der Hiel, W3C, PSO Secretary

Regrets:
Martin Dürst, W3C Representative
Geoff Huston, IETF Representative
Mike St.Johns, IETF Representative
Daniel Weitzner, W3C Representative


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1. Report on ICANN meeting Shanghai (Richard Hill)
http://www.icann.org/shanghai/

Richard said he made a presentation of the PSO Status Report 
http://www.w3.org/2002/PSO/Talks/20021021/slide1-0.html in Shanghai but he 
received no questions or comments.  He noted that the ICANN Board approved 
the new bylaws 
[http://www.icann.org/committees/evol-reform/fourth-supplemental-implementation-report-08dec02.htm] 
effective in December.  The bylaws 
http://www.icann.org/committees/evol-reform/proposed-transition-article-24nov02.htm 
called for abolishing the PSO  and replacing it with the Technical Liaison 
Group (formerly referred to as the Technical Advisory Committee 
http://www.icann.org/committees/evol-reform/second-supplemental-implementation-report-23oct02.htm 
).

Richard noted that the issues  that had earlier concerned the PC, such as 
order of rotation,  had been sorted out. Azucena asked if there was any 
debate about rotation order. Richard said that no, the changes just 
appeared in the report.

Amy asked about the time line. Richard said that the expectation was that 
there would be a meeting [http://www.icann.org/amsterdam/]  on December 
15th in which ICANN would approve the transition article which will make 
the bylaws effective.  The PSO, as a body which was created by ICANN 
bylaws, would then cease to exist.  Richard noted that, as was pointed out 
in the previous teleconference, there were still some formal issues with 
the MOU, and someone would need to follow through on the 
dissolution.  Azucena asked if there would be any action by ICANN.  Richard 
said that during an ad hoc meeting Louis had said he'd think about it.

Azucena asked if there would be any delay in the appointment of the new COO 
in January.  Richard said he was not sure the new COO would be appointed in 
January. He said the issue was clearly within Louis' sphere but he wasn't 
sure if Louis would write a letter on this issue after the December meeting 
or not.  He said Louis had no comments on the TLG.  Brian noted that the 
latest report was quite an improvement over the earlier drafts.

Amy asked how the PSO should move forward.  Richard noted that the PC could 
wait and look for confirmation of the new bylaws from ICANN.  Brian noted 
that there would have to be a time when the existing MOU is terminated and 
new arrangements would come into place.  Richard said he anticipated this 
would happen after the December.  Brian agreed and said the PC could be 
facing new arrangements in January.   Azucena stated that there was no need 
to arrange for a new teleconference unless the PC were contacted by 
ICANN.  Brian agreed and said that unless the group was asked to do 
something, there is no need for another call.

Azucena asked if until the dissolution of the PSO,  the W3C would keep the 
web site up and accessible; that she would prefer that the information was 
kept intact.  Amy said she would ask Danny and Martin but noted the W3C has 
a policy of not getting rid of web sites.  Richard noted that it is Tim 
Berners-Lee's policy that web sites are kept up.

(Note: Martin replied that his position is that the PSO site should just 
stay as it is at the W3C --  that ICANN need not take over the PSO site as 
it would just create additional work.  He suggested that when the PSO is 
formally dissolved, the PSO site could be updated with a text about the 
dissolution, the date, etc.  He suggested that ICANN should create new web 
pages and mailing lists for the TLG).

Brian noted that he was in favor of the TLG web site being supported by 
ICANN.  Azucena agreed and proposed on behalf of IETF that ICANN host the 
web site as opposed to the member of the group.  Brian agreed that it made 
sense for ICANN to take over the maintenance and hosting.

Amy asked if there were any further topics. Brian said that the PC wait and 
see if any issues around the transition came up. Amy suggested that any new 
issues could be raised on the mailing list and a call could be arranged if 
needed.  She noted this might be the last call of the PSO and thanked the PC.

As per the discussion, no upcoming teleconference was scheduled.



-- 
Amy van der Hiel
amy@w3.org
W3C/MIT 200 Technology Square, Cambridge, MA 02139 USA
telephone: +1.617.253.5628  fax: +1.617.258.5999