- From: Walter H. <Walter.H@mathemainzel.info>
- Date: Sun, 19 Mar 2017 15:55:11 +0100
- To: Joe Touch <touch@isi.edu>
- CC: ietf-http-wg@w3.org
- Message-ID: <58CE9BCF.7030203@mathemainzel.info>
On 19.03.2017 14:59, Joe Touch wrote: >>>> and now look at e.g. the calendar of Microsoft Outlook and look for >>>> the beginning and ending of a celebration day ... >>> The begin and end of a workday are configurable parameters within >>> Outlook. All-day events start at the beginning of a day (12am for >>> 12-hour clocks, 00:00 for 24-hour). This is what should be expected. >> I was not talking about a workday ..., I was talking about the general problem >> the last day of the year ends at 11:59 pm and not 12:00 am - as this is the time the next day starts; > Why is that a problem? because the software behaviour is this invalid ... > Would it help to think of 12 being 0? > > Then we'd have 0:00am (same as 00:00 in a 24-hour system) and 00:00pm (12:00 in a 24-hour system). > > Except we couldn't make clock faces using Roman numerals, because they lack a zero. And it wouldn't match the system in current use. > >> by the way 12:00 pm is not defined, > Then when did I have lunch yesterday? Sorry, the AM/PM system doesn't know of a zero hour ... > Every day starts at 1200am, hits 1200pm at the start of the second half, and ends at 11:59:59.9999999.... > > Except in leap years when it ends at 11:59:60.9999999... wrong, leap years have a February 29th ... > >> as the day has only 24 hours = 1440 minutes = 86400 seconds > That depends on how you define seconds wrong, there is only one definition for second, and that is in German: "Die Sekunde ist das 9 192 631 770fache der Periodendauer der dem Übergang zwischen den beiden Hyperfeinstrukturniveaus des Grundzustandes von Atomen des Nuklids Cäsium-133 entsprechenden Strahlung;" in English: "Thesecondis9192631770 timestheperiodsof theradiationcorrespondingto thetransitionbetweenthetwohyperfine levelsof theground stateofatomsof thenuclideof Cs-133;" > and whether a leap second is involved, but generally, yes. > When you count 0..59 there are 60 items for both minutes and seconds. Counting 12,1,2...9,10,11 yields 12. > > You haven't shown a problem yet. not as image, I showed in words ... "the calendar of Microsoft Outlook and look for the beginning and ending of a celebration day ..." look at this image: https://cdn.pbrd.co/images/LkqU6dJCk.png there you see the end of the "appointment" is the beginning of the next day which is invalid ... as I said: "nearly no software does it correct ..."
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