- From: Stefan Eissing <stefan.eissing@greenbytes.de>
- Date: Mon, 7 Jul 2008 08:58:43 +0200
- To: "Frank Ellermann" <hmdmhdfmhdjmzdtjmzdtzktdkztdjz@gmail.com>
- Cc: ietf-http-wg@w3.org
When HTTP has solved this problem, could you guys head over to the SMTP groups and let them know? They struggle with the "This-Is-Really- No-Spam" header for quite some time without making a break through. //Stefan Am 06.07.2008 um 18:00 schrieb Frank Ellermann: > > Eric Lawrence wrote: > >> keep in mind, however, that most folks (even the ultra-web engaged >> on these lists) see but a small fraction of the web, especially >> considering private address space/intranets, etc. > > Yes, but a general philosophical problem with any "do what I mean" > flag applies: > > (1) A relevant fraction of the Web got it wrong, using x=y where > they should have said x=z. > (2) Therefore you couldn't trust that x=y means x=y, introducing > some "what is x divination". > (3) That annoyed another relevant fraction of the Web who really > want x=y when they say x=y. > (4) You add an "I mean it" flag for (3), sticking to "divination" > as default for (1). > (5) In theory protocols, software, and config files are upgraded > to add those new "I mean it" flags everywhere. As that is a > worldwide upgrade stunt you lose a major fraction of the Web > sticking to (1) or (3) without this flag. > (6) Another major fraction does what you want, among them a part > of (1) now saying "x=y I mean it" when they clearly want x=z. > (7) SNAFU, your flag made it worse. > > Some problems can't be solved in specifications because it's a > problem with folks never reading specifications. > > Frank > > -- <green/>bytes GmbH, Hafenweg 16, D-48155 Münster, Germany Amtsgericht Münster: HRB5782
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