- From: <jg@zorch.w3.org>
- Date: Thu, 29 Aug 96 22:03:00 -0400
- To: Paul Hoffman <paulh@imc.org>
- Cc: Larry Masinter <masinter@parc.xerox.com>, http-wg%cuckoo.hpl.hp.com@hplb.hpl.hp.com, Harald.T.Alvestrand@uninett.no, moore@cs.utk.edu
Paul, there is more here (and has been going on behind the scenes) than you know. I'll try to summarize the situation as I see it from the mail that has been flowing between the area directors, Larry and myself. The basic problem is a procedural one (that Keith Moore, Harald Alvestrand, Larry and I might be held responsible for): last calls were issued on the documents independently, and they are not written to interdepend in appropriate ways. With 20-20 hind sight, we should have issued a single last call with covering explanation, and done the wordsmithing slightly differently. The IETF and IESG get very upset if any normative requirements (i.e. MUSTs, SHOULDS, etc.) change between the final draft and the RFC; after all, that is what is Last Call is all about. Any changes should be entirely of an editorial nature. So, we have to ways to fix this. 1) Issue new drafts for both documents, and have to issue a new IETF last call. Once that is done, the IESG does its thing. This would take a month or two. (or three).... 2) Have the IESG immediately issue the RFC's for both HTTP/1.1 and Digest. Go ahead immediately with issue a separate (about 1 page) draft that states the normative requirements we all intend(ed), forward to the area directors instantly, and do IETF last call on it. This would take a month or two. (or three).... Both 1) and 2) take the same length of elapsed time to the same desired end state. 1) causes us to wait months more for any IESG action (i.e. we don't get RFC's immediately), and 2) gets us the announcement of the IESG action of last Thursday approving both our existing documents issued, and then the tiny RFC gets us the normative requirements we want at the same elapsed time that 1 would have taken. So the right outcome in our minds (Larry, myself, Keith, and Harald) is 2), so that more time does not elapse for proposed standard on HTTP/1.1. By going ahead with the existing documents we get Proposed standard immediately, without taking significantly longer elapsed time for the requirements we've been discussing. Larry didn't make clear in his mail what our options are procedurally, in the current process state. And we'll pull all this together into the Draft version of the document(s), so that this strange short RFC we'll end with won't matter thereafter. Hopefully, this will clarify the situation to everyone. Aren't standards processes fun? :-) - Jim
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