- From: Larry Masinter <masinter@parc.xerox.com>
- Date: Mon, 19 Aug 1996 11:45:37 PDT
- To: http-wg%cuckoo.hpl.hp.com@hplb.hpl.hp.com
Here is my current understanding of the status of the various WG
items. However, there was a lot of mail last week, I was off-net, and
I went through it quickly. PLEASE send me any corrections. I'll send
out a revised status note soon.
Previous work:
- HTTP/1.1: draft-ietf-http-v11-spec-07.*
IESG last call expired July 5. Jim issued a new draft with some
fixes based on last call comments. Some additional comments have
come in. (max-age, charset) Whether they'll require WG action is
still to be determined.
- digest: draft-ietf-http-digest-aa-04.txt
IESG last call expired July 22. No comments; we're waiting for
IESG action. (Status unchanged).
- cookies: draft-ietf-http-state-mgmt-03.*
In IESG last call, expires August 20. One IESG comment, which
has been responded to.
New items:
- hit-metering
http://ftp.digital.com/~mogul/draft-ietf-http-hit-metering-00.txt
Active discussion over:
- should this be in HTTP/1.2 at all
- is it better/simpler than draft-hallam-http-*
- details about the form (HEAD vs OPTIONS, Vary: * vs max-age,
etc.)
Expect an internet draft "soon". ("draft-mogul-http-hit-metering"
probably).
- Revised PEP draft
Rohit promises an I-D "first thing Monday morning". Monday morning
has come and gone, we're still waiting.
- content negotiation: draft-holtman-http-negotiation-02.txt
Andy Mutz will co-edit with Koen Holtman.
Active discussion in the working group on details.
(I also have private mail suggesting that W3C may also
contribute, but no details or timetable.)
- User Agent characteristics: draft-mutz-http-attributes-01.txt
Aug 1 draft ties in with content negotiation proposal; needs
non-numeric attributes.
- sticky headers:
Active discussion. Need Internet Draft.
Most people want "real data" before considering for standards track.
Some call to separate out 'sticky headers' from 'header compression'.
- referrals proposal
draft was expected but didn't arrive.
- User agent profiles
This was discussed on the list, but hasn't resulted in any
explicit proposal; it's relationship to content negotiation
is unclear.
Related items:
- SHTTP: draft-ietf-wts-shttp-03.txt
In IESG Last Call, new version was issued August 1.
No visible discussion in either WG.
Charter:
We actually didn't submit a revised charter; our tentative charter in
the minutes said:
================================================================
> July 2: (Gettys) Revised HTTP/1.1 draft
> July 30: (Mogul, Leach): draft on 'hit count' additions
> Aug 1: (Nielsen) revised PEP draft
> Aug 1: (Mutz) revised User Agent attributes draft
> Aug 1: (Leach) draft on sticky headers, short names for headers, and
> context identifiers
> undated: revised content negotiation draft
> undated: HTTP Implementation Guidelines draft
> Dec 96: all remaining documents to Last Call
> Target is to close working group by next IETF with work completed. We
> may not need meeting at the December IETF. Subsequent work (e.g., on
> HTTP-NG) may happen by creating a new working group with a new mailing
> list, etc.
Personal predictions:
I predict that the result of discussion will be:
* Sticky Headers & Hit Counts will go to "Experimental RFC" status.
Too many people doubt the utility of these; some experimentation
and results would be useful, and releasing the drafts ASAP as
Experimental would encourage experimentation. Early results one
way or another could change this.
* User Agent Attributes & Content Negotation will progress
together. With Andy Mutz as co-editor of both drafts, and
some focus in the group, we'll be able to make progress on this
and get a Proposed Standard out.
* Progress on PEP depends on better responsiveness by PEP authors.
(We've yet to even see a draft we can evaluate.)
We might be able to handle the revision from "Draft" to "Proposed"
with only PEP and content/feature negotiation within the working group
before shutting down.
Larry
Received on Monday, 19 August 1996 11:48:58 UTC