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Re: Are international characters allowed in email addresses?

From: <ned.freed@mrochek.com>
Date: Thu, 28 Jun 2001 20:26:05 -0700 (PDT)
To: Eric Brunner-Williams <wampum@maine.rr.com>
Cc: ned.freed@mrochek.com, Keith Moore <moore@cs.utk.edu>, Eric Brunner-Williams in Portland Maine <brunner@nic-naa.net>, discuss@apps.ietf.org
Message-id: <01K5BB2CRT1S0000AQ@mauve.mrochek.com>
> Going back to Mr. Harrison's original question, could you offer him a
> sensible answer that made a contrary assertion to the one I made, and
> Keith took exception to, and explain that no header processing issues
> are involved, only "domain" and "address" issues?

In other words, you want me to argue Keith's points for him. Thanks but no
thanks.

For my part I never said that "no header processing issues are involved". What
I did say is that until it is clear what direction IDN is going we cannot work
usefully on things like "header processing issues". For all we know at this
point we'll end up with some directory solution layred on top of existing
services that argues strongly for something akin to X.400's
ORAddressAndDirectoryName construct. (And no, I'm not saying that I think such
an outcome is likely or that it appeals to me. All I'm saying is that anything
is possible at this point.)

> Since I have been participating in the IDN list most of this year, your
> closing para(s) were for someone else's benefit, right? You did read
> Keith's comment that the IDN requirements draft is irrelevant, so as
> you both agree with Keith completely _and_ recommend people read
> the requirements draft, your point is ... what?

Eric, this is flummery and you know it. Shame on you. I responded to one
message of Keith's by saying I agreed with everything he said in it. Then Keith
said in a separate, subsequent message that he believes the IDN requirements
draft is irrelevant. Agreeing with what Keith said in one message doesn't mean
that I agree with everything he says in subsequent messages. The very notion
that this would be so is absurd.

> This is heading towards interesting territory -- don't use apps, don't
> use 822, don't use ... and don't complain about IDN.

> Not what I expected.

I have no idea what your expectations are, and after what you said in this
message, I frankly don't care.

Even if I were interested in discussing header processing issues at this
point (I'm not), it is now clear that you have no intention in engaging in
a sensible or reasonable discussion. So as far as I'm concerned this
discussion is now terminated.

				Ned
Received on Thursday, 28 June 2001 23:50:27 UTC

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