- From: Clemm, Geoff <gclemm@rational.com>
- Date: Sat, 2 Jun 2001 08:57:10 -0400
- To: ietf-dav-versioning@w3.org
From: Tim_Ellison@uk.ibm.com [mailto:Tim_Ellison@uk.ibm.com] .... When making high-level UI decisions (menu options greyed-out, choice of icons, etc.) the information required is usually 'type' _and_ 'state'. Providing an efficient means of getting the full classification will be important for responsive UIs. Deciding what menu options to put up should be based on DAV:supported-method-set. The "icon" that is chosen should be based on the "content" of the resource. For the versioning metadata resources, this can be inferred from the DAV:supported-live-property-set. The only time you need DAV:resourcetype is when there are not any special live properties for the resource (for example, there is no live property that lets you distinguish an empty collection from a non-collection resource). Since <DAV:checked-in> and <DAV:checked-out> will appear in the <DAV:supported-live-properties> set I believe that it will be sufficient to PROPFIND on <DAV:supported-live-properties> and <DAV:resourcetype> (for <DAV:collection/> or a MIME-type etc.) to get an accurate classification. However... It feels strange (in a woolly, hand-waving way) to characterise a resource based soley upon its observed/stated behavior -- especially given the existance of a <DAV:resourcetype> property that is being used intuatively in some cases (e.g. an activity), and not in others (e.g. a version-controlled configuration). Good point. We are currently unnecessarily setting DAV:resourcetype for a few resources (e.g. activities), when this information is already available in DAV:supported-live-property-set. I propose that we delete this redundant and inconsistent use of DAV:resourcetype from the versioning protocol. If consensus is ever reached at the general WebDAV level that we should extend DAV:resourcetype with sets of tokens, we can then add this information in a consistent fashion (i.e. consistent wrt whatever criteria is decided for what goes into DAV:resourcetype). The danger that I see is that clients must base their characterisations of resources on the existance of specific live properties, and that future extensions to DeltaV will have to bear this in mind when defining new resource 'types'. If a new resource type has exactly the same DAV:supported-live-property-set as an existing resource type, I believe it is reasonable and correct for the GUI to show the same icon for both resources. For example, if I had an idea for a resource that was not a Baseline, but had a legitimate use for the <DAV:baseline-collection> property, all legacy (to-be:-) clients would spot the <DAV:baseline-collection> property and incorrectly assume it was a Baseline. A client that cared about this would look for an exact match with the set of DAV:supported-live-property-set for a baseline. And if it didn't have an exact match, I suggest that displaying the baseline icon (or whatever icon has the best matching property set) is significantly superior to displaying the "unknown resource type" icon. How much more verbose English would be if we had to describe the characteristics of a crocodile and an alligator in order to distingush them rather than rely on their names. Suppose I had an "X-ray vision WebDAV" application on my palm pilot that I pointed at a closed door in front of me. If that application was written before the "alligator" resource was defined, I'd much rather have the "reptile with big teeth that will eat you" icon pop up on my palm pilot, than the "unknown resource type" icon. (:-). Cheers, Geoff
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