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Re: What is a SOAP Message

From: <noah_mendelsohn@us.ibm.com>
Date: Thu, 13 Feb 2003 12:22:06 -0500
To: Mark Baker <distobj@acm.org>
Cc: dorchard@bea.com, fielding@apache.org, xml-dist-app@w3.org
Message-ID: <OF0ABE91BC.5663184F-ON85256CCC.005DAB77@lotus.com>

Roy: there is indeed a moderately voluminous thread on this at [1], which 
was originally about the general nature of SOAP messages (may or may not 
be of interest to you....roughly it's whatever one node sends to another 
per the SOAP architecture.  My view is that it includes at minimum an XML 
"Envelope" but frequently other information such as destination URIs, 
etc.)  Where we started to get into REST issues is where David Orchard 
said at [2]:

"Maybe a good word for the bag of bits that some are calling a message 
would be better served being called a representation?"

Which led to the ongoing discussion of whether >all< such messages are 
best described with the word "representation".  I think that's the 
fundamental question on which Mark has asked for your reactions.

If you're commenting, as Mark requested, I'd specifically be curious for 
your thoughs on my contribution at [3]. (BTW:   I also wrote some followup 
at  [4, 5] but those latter posts are somewhat less succinct.  That said, 
if you do read the post at [4] please note the clarification at [5].) 

Thank you!

[1] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/xml-dist-app/2003Feb/0005.html
[2] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/xml-dist-app/2003Feb/0023.html
[3] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/xml-dist-app/2003Feb/0023.html
[4] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/xml-dist-app/2003Feb/0084.html
[5] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/xml-dist-app/2003Feb/0092.html

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